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The rainbow, the cross and the crescent clash in the Australian Defence Force : Comments
By Bernard Gaynor, published 31/1/2014Is Bernard Gaynor being expelled from the Defence Force for thought crimes which the Defence Force's own laws allow?
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Posted by cohenite, Saturday, 1 February 2014 7:30:17 PM
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Suse,
The depth of your knowledge continues to astound me, "If, as you stated, you are such a strict Catholic, then why would you join the army? Thou shalt not kill is a strong commandment I would have thought." It was Catholics who fought the vast majority of battles/wars in Europe for a thousand plus years before the Reformation, they comprised both sides. Catholics have been prominent in our Armed Forces since Colonial times. Australian War Memorial Collection: "A portrait of the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Melbourne, his Grace Dr Daniel Mannix. This photograph is a portion of P01383.017, a framed composite photograph (photo-montage) presented to Lieutenant John Hamilton VC by Dr Mannix on the occasion of the Saint Patrick's Day celebrations in Melbourne, 17 March 1920. The composite photograph comprises portraits of fourteen Victoria Cross winners (ten Roman Catholics and four Protestants, all presumably with Irish backgrounds) with portraits of Dr Mannix and the entrepreneur John Wren in the centre. It was probably financed by John Wren." http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P01383.001 Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 1 February 2014 7:54:56 PM
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The silent, no-weapon-required invaders from the rickety boats must be just so pleased to read how the ADF carries on. It makes things just so much easier for them.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 1 February 2014 8:07:41 PM
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The ADF joined the pride in diversity employer programme 'to make the workplace more responsive to the needs of lesbians, gay, bisexual and transgender'. It makes them sound like they are disabled with special needs.
They arent their sexuality, they are people employed to fill a position and do a job. With the same goals and aspirations as the person next to them. Sex has nothing to bloody do with their job. When our gay friends come over they seem like normal functioning people to us, always have. Posted by jodelie, Saturday, 1 February 2014 9:37:38 PM
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Suazie & others,
It was Catholic soldiers at the gates of Vienna that beat back the Islamic army. Now a days they are well past Vienna, they have almost taken over France and Holland and the UK are next in line. Has no one else heard of the fifth column ? Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 1 February 2014 9:39:17 PM
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In response to Mr Gaynor - you know as well as I do that you are being discharged under administrative law as a reflection of your unsuitability as an officer in the Army. The fact that you are a reserve member and escaped the application of military law is irrelevant in the end.
I have not, and will not, express an opinion about DEFGLIS. Command authorised their presence at the parade therefore it was lawful. Command did not authorise you belittling a number of senior officers, or making broad generalised derogatory comments about other religious groups. As for your comment that I do not know policy, although I can quite clearly see from your own website that you do not believe a woman should be in the military - your condescension towards me is not appreciated as you have no idea what I do and do not know. To those commenting on the fact that the ADF has been overrun by a homosexual lobby, religious groups, doesn't know what it is doing etc - whilst your opinions are yours and therefore valid to you - you do not speak for the ADF or the vast majority of members so do not represent yourself as doing so. Those that have served should hold that as an honour because quite simply it is, do not however use it to prop up your biased, and discriminatory, comments against other current and ex-serving members. If you do not think you are, ask yourself this: do you know which of those who have given their service and loyalty for this country are straight, homosexual, or even transgendered? You are insulting their service and in some cases their lives by your insults. I thank all of those that have committed any part of their life in defence of this country and that is regardless of race, gender, sexuality, or religious belief. Posted by Marie79, Saturday, 1 February 2014 11:09:20 PM
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Don't bother, try thinking; the author of this article correctly describes Islam as a political force and Australia is a secular society. How could it be a religious conflict? It would be a better comparison to compare it to some conflict between the West and a totalitarian regime such as communism or Nazism.
I don't want to make any thing of the fact that the author is a devout catholic; he lives in a secular democracy and presumably doesn't want the Vatican to take over the running of the place.
This is to be compared with Islam which has made no bones about wanting to introduce sharia.
Instead of having that conversation we are bogged down with this spurious garbage about whether this Colonel McGregor should go the men's room or not. Which answers my previous enquiry about whether the McGregor issue interferes operationally.
Of course it does.
The irony is if Islam took over the McGregors of the world would not be worried about what ensemble best went with their dress uniform. Islam is so tolerant of transgenders and the other weird and wonderful life-forms which proliferate in the Western system and which all seem so dissatisfied which the latitudes they are provided in The West. A death-wish comes in many forms.