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The rainbow, the cross and the crescent clash in the Australian Defence Force : Comments

By Bernard Gaynor, published 31/1/2014

Is Bernard Gaynor being expelled from the Defence Force for thought crimes which the Defence Force's own laws allow?

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Is Mise, my point was not that Catnolics have never been involved in wars, because obviously they have and are now.

My point was that if you state that the reason you are against other religions, or homosexuals, or women in the ADF is because you are a staunch Catholic, then surely you should also be taking on all the other traits of a staunch Catholic....namely that thou shalt not kill?
Otherwise you can't call yourself a staunch Catholic...

Good on you Marie.
Obviously this Bernard is in the wrong, or he wouldn't have been sacked from the ADF.

A timely reminder to bigoted, racist, misogynistic people.
You have no place in modern Australian society....whether you like it or not.
Drag yourselves into the 21st century or stay behind....your choice..
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 2 February 2014 3:49:34 AM
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Suse says:

"A timely reminder to bigoted, racist, misogynistic people.
You have no place in modern Australian society....whether you like it or not.
Drag yourselves into the 21st century or stay behind....your choice.."

And is referring to Islam? Of course not! It beggars belief that the feministas and other lefties can rant and rave about the emasculated, former patriarchal sections our society like the Catholic church and misogynist Abbott, but say nothing about the infinitely worse Islam.

They don't attack Islam because they are COWARDS, because Islam will bite back!

And because the left and progressives have taken over our institutions including the military that is why Islam will win.

How stupid the left are, to oppose and weaken their own society on the basis of past oppression and be prepared to hand it over to Islam so worse oppression can occur.
Posted by cohenite, Sunday, 2 February 2014 7:43:19 AM
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For over 300 years, the British Army suffered a series of catastrophic defeats, sometimes at the hands of enemies who were not only inferior in numbers, but inferior in arms, supplies, and the technology of civilisation. The only reason for these defeats was because the British governments considered that the political reliability of it's senior army commanders to be much more important than that of their sound military thinking.

For over 300 years, with only a few exceptions, (Wolfe, Wellington, Marlborough), the British army's leading generals were all self serving blithering idiots who knew only how to suck up to their political masters. The list of military catastrophe's by well connected sycophants became long and dismal. Afghanistan under Elphinstone, Cardigan in the Crimea, South Africa under Buller, Iraq under Townshend, Chetwolde at Gaza (who "snatched defeat from the jaws of victory", and Percival at Singapore.

The sacking of successful military commanders who fell foul of political correctness occurred in all armies, and such brilliant tacticians as Fuller, Percy Hobart, Guderian, and Billy Mitchell were all shoved out of the way when they told the politicians what the politicians did not want to know.

The western world now thinks that the military opinions of homosexuals, transgenders, feminists, social crusaders and the politically correct are far more important than those of the professional military men who know what they are doing. Rapid promotion now seems to exist in the Australian Armed Forces to those who seem to know what the influential academic caste wants. The next time we end up in a real war, we just might pay the price for that stupidity
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 2 February 2014 7:55:35 AM
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I figured out why you are so rabid, Marie79. It's the colours of your rainbow that are blinding you.

Marie79: you do not speak for the ADF or the vast majority of members so do not represent yourself as doing so.

Actually, the vast majority of Soldiers are against homosexuals being in the Army. They have been restricted from saying so by the homosexuals in the Officer Corps making the rules. They have to follow Orders, or they will be discharged, as was Bernard. No choice, no freedom of speech in the Ranks.
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 2 February 2014 8:07:18 AM
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Marie79 & Suseonline you don't happen to be high ranking officers in the ingnorant treason battalion by any chance ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 2 February 2014 8:59:07 AM
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Suse,

You continue to astound me:

"....taking on all the other traits of a staunch Catholic....namely that thou shalt not kill?
Otherwise you can't call yourself a staunch Catholic..."

The Catholic Church, both Roman and Eastern, says nowhere that killing is wrong when done in self defence and this, of course, includes soldiers in battle.
The Catholic Swiss Guards in the Vatican are not only armed with the most modern small arms but they are highly trained soldiers and when on guard are armed and ready to kill if necessary.

See: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=swiss+guard+weapons&tbm=isch&imgil=po2T35TJSOHoeM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcQhQyXuaH5nFwhtcNL0TBliqqbMHUDbPSTx_PujHhJwxHQKr6husA%253B600%253B250%253BdpkS2ewwKNWhpM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.imfdb.org%25252Fwiki%25252FAngels_%2525252526_Demons&source=iu&usg=__cDhW-dlKQ-i9AI5liBdvSNXIE64%3D&sa=X&ei=SJztUuzFE6npiAempoDIAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CEQQ9QEwBA&biw=1024&bih=653#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=Y6Z0qk_feRcgxM%253A%3Bf4dVYOQpMIj_RM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmaryvictrix.wordpress.com%252Ffiles%252F2008%252F06%252Fswiss-guard-gun.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmaryvictrix.com%252F2008%252F06%252F11%252Fpackn-heat%252F%3B360%3B425
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 2 February 2014 11:20:22 AM
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