Suseonline: JayB, how can you say that Marie can't speak for all the ADF personnel

No. She seems to be speaking fr them to me.

Suseonline: Really? Are you in the army then? How would you know?

As ex Army, you would be surprised how much contact old soldiers keep in touch with their past Units & the MEM in them. Reunions with fellow veterans & the young ones coming on both at local towns & in Units. E.g. Unit Birthdays, Remembrance days, like Coral Day, etc. Talking of old Units. I even keep contact with the 173d Airborne. That's how I know.

Suseonline: I wouldn't mind betting that gay people have been part of the army for a long time, and no one else even knew. They just did their job like anyone else.

Yes, but mostly it was in the Officer Corps.

Suseonline: Bernard was sacked from the army because he broke the rules.

Then how come these others weren't sacked as well. OH! the Gays, Greens, Lawyers & Politically Correct are writing all the Rules nowadays. That's why. The "SYSTEM" at work.

Suseonline: It doesn't matter who his commanding officers or fellow soldiers slept with, or their sexual orientation,

Yes it does. See the "Mil Law Manual."

Suseonline: the fact remains that Bernard was wrong.

Only to the Gay, Greenies, Lawyers & Politically Correct. To the rest of us he was right.

How many know who Warrie George & Petersen are, for interest sake?

Suseonline,
What a bizarre reply !

Cohenite, I know many Liberal voters who are not homophobic or racist, so your protests about what you are so sure I do or don't believe are rubbish.
Obviously you don't know many people.

JayB, obviously you didn't like officers from your army days, what with suggesting homosexuals were only present amongst their ranks...lol!
It is clear you didn't really know the sexual orientation of all those people in the rank and file ADF.

Bernard was rightly sacked, and it doesn't matter what the sexual orientation, religious orientation or any other preferences of all the other army personnel were, he was wrong.
I think I have made myself perfectly clear here, and have said all I want to say on this subject. See you all on another thread.
Cheers,
Suse.

You only know what words I write on this forum.
Suseonline,
That's more than adequate to form a 99% correct opinion of your mentality.

suseonline marie79 extremists?
Continuing to bang my head against a brick wall, the comments of all the other posters on this subject are reasonable and correct.Your accusations of 'bigots, racists, misogynists etc are so inaccurate.

Bernard Gaynors description of the extremists they were at war with is correct, not racism. Bigots? A bit of fear and distrust is justified. Misogynists? Dont recall that being raised as an issue.

'Do you even know if those who serve in the military past or present were gay, homosexual bisexual, transgender? Point being? Men and women who are or were serving, doing the job they were employed to do and admirably so.

Please... where in any occupation is sexual orientation or preference included on a job application? Nowhere because it is irrelevant.
Just for example: 'Making a workplace more responsive to the needs of lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgender'? Surely they can meet their own needs on their own time same as anyone else. The workplace is just that!

suseonline. 'Jayb, are you in the army then' oh dear. This gent was the first to respond to Bernard Gaynors post.
Many things can be learnt from those who speak from experience. My dad was in the SAS, he passed down many hard learnt values to me. And no doubt he served alongside 'gay people and didnt even know, soldiers doing their job like everyone else' (unbeknown to you suseonline the most realistic thing you have said so far)
But then' it doesnt matter who his commanding officers slept with or their sexual orientation.' bye suseonline
'Here's to equality and equal rights' not getting out of hand and stupidly overboard.