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The rainbow, the cross and the crescent clash in the Australian Defence Force : Comments

By Bernard Gaynor, published 31/1/2014

Is Bernard Gaynor being expelled from the Defence Force for thought crimes which the Defence Force's own laws allow?

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Bernard. Was just reading through your site. Holy dooly! What an ordeal for you, and in the most um bazaar surroundings.
Anyway.Looking through, next minute a Happy Birthday pop-up, popped up on the screen with 1st FEB. I thought wow! how nice I wonder who sent that to me. It was for you haha. Ahh small things...
Posted by jodelie, Saturday, 1 February 2014 2:57:10 PM
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The fault, in the first place, was letting these people in. Before I resigned in 76 I was he Recruiting Sergeant for 31Bn. We had courses on dissuading people who wanted to go Camping.

Though there were very few in the Ranks & they were got rid of very quickly if found out. The Officer Corps has always been full of Homosexual. I even had a distant cousin who was a Major in 8 R.A.R. I believed he ended up in Canberra. Figures.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 1 February 2014 3:36:51 PM
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Bernard, from what I have read here, they were right to sack you from the army.
Your views are archaic and offensive.

If, as you stated, you are such a strict Catholic, then why would you join the army?
Thou shalt not kill is a strong commandment I would have thought.

If men or women join the army, they are all taught to fight in the same way aren't they?
Who they have sex with surely doesn't have any bearing on their ability to serve the country does it?

I assume you are just as horrified by any of the heterosexual military people who have sex before marriage, or who are adulterers?
Do you publicly name these people on your blogs and condemn them, just as you do homosexual soldiers?

If not, why not?

Your condemnation of all Islamic people is just as bad as anyone who condemns all Christians. You are no better than them.
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 1 February 2014 4:47:23 PM
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Bernard can I ask you this? The battles the ADF were involved in with Afghanistan, Timor and Iraq, were they considered religious wars? Sorry havent Googled that part yet.

With regards to the ADFs very open, nonchalant attitude to sexual- preference, I was kind of gobbed smacked for a while. Having never heard of such an occurrence in a work place. Approval to lead the contingent in the Mardi Gras? Is this for real? The rest of the policies acts and behaviors , just not getting it.

My views are not based on anything religious, anything to do with homophobia. Just shocked to know this is our Australian Defense Force
Posted by jodelie, Saturday, 1 February 2014 4:53:36 PM
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suseonline: Your views are archaic and offensive.

Archaic? maybe not, this Homosexual thing is "fashion of the month." It a bit like fashions with young people, today it's in, tomorrow its out. If you're not "with" the flavour of the month you're on the outer.

Offensive? have you ever thought that us straight people, the majority of Australians, might be offended by homosexuals. I'm certainly offended by homosexuality. Everybody I know is offended & sick of having it shoved down our throats. I'm offended by the use of the word "Gay" for homosexuality.

By saying that homosexual people are offended by people that don't accept them, you are assuming that they are the majority. They are not. If you take poll at the Gay Mardi Gras or in Gay Bars of course you'll get a high score. Let's have a compulsory National Poll & see how that goes.

No? I wonder why?
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 1 February 2014 6:09:52 PM
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cohenite. the author says.

Well written and accurate. This is how the majority define their being. Was this the offending comment by Bernard Gaynor?

Catholics have been sent to war for over a century. And believe turning to war is the last resort. They refer to 'Jus in Bello' justice in war. Which include four conditions...

Men and women join the army to become soldiers and serve their country.
Their active duties may vary only slightly, but basically they are all soldiers. Gender is obviously apparent, but anything to do with individual sexual preference is personal, and should remain that way. As for religious beliefs, this is also personal and your choice to share or not.
Posted by jodelie, Saturday, 1 February 2014 6:54:51 PM
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