Sorry, time to hit earth at full speed. Islam at work: http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/, oo yeh so peaceful more dead bodies to count . Communism Fascism combined ! Pure amateurs.

Just when you thought it was a religious text, sorry you are wrong:
http://answering-islam.org/Books/Tisdall/Sources/index.htm

And not to embarrass any sitting on the fence or just bathing in ideological bliss (ignorance), Dr Derabi can explain a few things to enlighten you. You will not be pleased.

And for those up and budding atheists and Communists etc, here is a Historical deconstruction of religion, Full Book. Well I will spare you, just read Chapter Nine, and then get your local Islamic leader to explain it to you, Psssst, a hint, check the dates: In Academe it is Plagiarism.
http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/RPO_NewChrist/chap9.htm

And one more thing, start reading and quick, time is running out, the pixies will not save you, nor will Irf.

F.H.... close, but not quite

"offer salvation to them"

as Christ said "All authority in heaven and earth is given to me, go therefore make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you and lo, I am with you even till the end of the age." Matthew 28.18-20

The only force which can stop this great enterprise is.... the human heart. It can say yes, or no.

If all authority is in God, in Christ, that does not leave any authority to anyone else.

We are servants of that Authority.

Hitler ? hmm I don't think I would look to his hermeneutics as a guide to understanding the Bible. He is just one of many throughout time, who has had ideas of megalomania and sought to justify them with distorted views of Biblical teaching.

F.H. The Bali Bombing was rooted in Islam, but on your view, it is a distorted Islam. So, that's fair enough, I see no honour or conscience, only hate in those acts. But too many people tell us 'but'... the west this, the USA that, the Brits such and such and thats where all the hate is coming from, and I can see why and agree to a point. So, you have an enjoyable Ramadan, and a blessed Hari Raya
oops.. that's malay :) in English it means 'big day'. I still pray you will come to Christ -your Lord and Savior.

As much as I would desire all to acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord; this must be by personal conviction, not by cohersion or threat. I am a convinced follower of the teachings of the sinless son of Mary, who is the word from God [the expression of God]. I admire his character and actions and conclude he was of all men the Lord.

If all orthodox Muslims believed and followed Jesus life and words, there could be greater understanding between us of the true God. The Qur'an gives mention of Jesus, but Islamic extremists prefer to follow a person who himself said he confessed his sins 40 times a day. Why? because his was a serious offender of God's laws.

BD and fellow passionate posters,

You posting confirms my point: any religion can be used to promote love or violence, it is how you preach it.

Philo ‘special correction’:

There are no differences between Muslims and Christians over the teachings of Jesus. In fact, an average Muslim will know a lot more about Jesus teachings than an average Christian.

The difference is we kept our commandments. Jesus was clear on the commandments: you Lord is one and also clear that he was not God nor equal (specially when asked about the day of judgement: he admitted “only the father knows”). The bible confirms what is in the Quoran.

Irfan,

Congratulations on a good and timely piece like always.
Your threads are the most discussed so I am signing off.

Peace and all the best

F H, a small point,I think you meant that the Quran mentions what was in the bible.
Thank's

-All,

Nope, the Bible as I studied it consists manily of the edited Torah (aahd adeem) + Jesus biographies.
The Quran addresses the same messengers as the Torah does, except some Israelites kings (like David and Solomon) are actually prophet-king according to the Koran (Solomon for example was given the miracle of understanding animals).

The other key differences are:

- Definition of God is light of the earth and creator of all beings and laws. This definition is in line with the Torah as well but the bible have a physical form of God (ie Jesus).

- The Quran refer to other prophets and messengers (Salih, Shueyb) etc… meaning there was messenger outside the Israelites. The Bible only talked about the Sons of Jacob prophets (ie Israelites).

- The Quran story of Jesus kept the teachings but have a different philosophy about his fate, wisdom and ending. There is no original sin in the Quran or the Torah.

- It also focuses on intent, heart purification and a social/ legislative frame (the bible is a mix of Mosaic law and Jesus spiritual teachings.

- The Quoran talks a lot more about the nature of creation, miracles of stars movements, human body, astrology, which have no mention in the Bible.

All the best,