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Who are the 'Deniers' now? : Comments

By Anthony Cox, published 22/4/2013

What should we call global warming activists who claim that global warming is accelerating, despite the evidence?

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cohenite,

"I saw some establishment shots of scientists being just ordinary good folk..."

As opposed to what?

Tell us how you think scientist really behave.

We know there is a concerted effort amongst skeptics (whose layman representatives are themselves usually extremely obnoxious) to paint climate scientists as demonic scammers.

Here's a video from people who obviously don't know the first thing about glaciers, and who are really after grants to fund their skiing trips.

http://vimeo.com/51589462

Regarding your problem of Simon Lamb sitting beside his daughter to highlight the innocence and vulnerability of those who depend on us to make wise choices. Yes, it's an emotive technique, but it's a babe in the manipulative woods compared to this effort from the denialist camp.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/09/local/la-me-gs-unabomber-billboard-continues-to-hurt-heartland-institute-20120509

Lastly, Andy Lee Robinson has done it again....

http://climatecrocks.com/2013/04/23/arctic-ice-mass-loss-visualized/
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 11:02:54 AM
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Tell us how you think scientist really behave.
Poirot,
They almost all live off the taxpayer, only a handful ever make sufficient sense to create revenue. I firmly believe in science & research but I draw the line when it comes to propping them up all their lives. By all means pay them a wage & when they do make a significant discover let them have their fair share. I really have a serious problem with the eternal researchers at great expense to us. How would you feel if the mechanic fixing your car or the builder building your home would never finish & you just have to keep paying. That's how many so-called scientists & well educated people behave in general. Like our consulting engineers who do upgrades instead of admitting their mistakes & each upgrade just makes everything more unworkable. Of all paid for courtesy australian taxpayer by order of a Labor Government.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 25 April 2013 6:39:45 AM
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Tell us how you think scientist really behave.
Poirot,
They almost all live off the taxpayer, only a handful ever make sufficient sense to create revenue. I firmly believe in science & research but I draw the line when it comes to propping them up all their lives. By all means pay them a wage & when they do make a significant discover let them have their fair share. I really have a serious problem with the eternal researchers at great expense to us. How would you feel if the mechanic fixing your car or the builder building your home would never finish & you just have to keep paying. That's how many so-called scientists & well educated people behave in general. Like our consulting engineers who do upgrades instead of admitting their mistakes & each upgrade just makes everything more unworkable. Of course all paid for courtesy australian taxpayer by order of a Labor Government.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 25 April 2013 6:40:10 AM
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Insult you, Mr Cox?

One who plays the emotion card in front of 'judge and jury'.

You are starting to sound as logical and as intelligent as the post(s) just above.

"Trust me, I'm a lawyer"

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Individual x2

You left out 'you know whats' and political ideologues.
Posted by qanda, Thursday, 25 April 2013 7:55:04 AM
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That's quite amusing, individual.

Pray tell, when should a scientist consider themselves to have finished?

You obviously consider it as something with a finite engagement, like the construction of a house or the repair of a car. The same goes for scientists and researchers, are you suggesting we put a time limit on each scientist and if he doesn't deliver a breakthrough in that time, then we turf him?

Einstein famously remarked: "You ask me if I keep a notebook to record my great ideas. I've only ever had one."

Guess what? Human adaptation, discovery and advancement is an evolution. It's not something that has a point where we all pack up and go home at a certain point.

Yes, I know you have a particular aversion to anyone who appears to be "over educated", but there you go, human beings are curious clever creatures even if they're often not wise.

(Regarding upgrades. I'm sure you'd be delighted to still be using some of the first computers. It's a shame all those advances and upgrades have delivered you the technology of the 21st century)
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 25 April 2013 9:12:08 AM
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Pray tell, when should a scientist consider themselves to have finished?
Poirot,
That's a rather evasive reply. I believe I have paid enough taxes by now to not pay anymore. Would the bureaucrats agree with that ? No ! Then how can they justify paying people who never invent anything or discover anything ? It really is as it is with academics & scholars. You get a handful of good ones but the masses of hangers on try to align themselves with the real scientists & academics thus dragging all others into disrepute. How much do some of these scientists get paid for never finding anything ? Can you provide some figures ?
Posted by individual, Thursday, 25 April 2013 12:42:43 PM
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