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Who are the 'Deniers' now? : Comments

By Anthony Cox, published 22/4/2013

What should we call global warming activists who claim that global warming is accelerating, despite the evidence?

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individual,

"Can you provide some figures?"

No, but I can supply some common sense.

Arthur Koestler maintained the view (with which I agree) that great leaps are the sum of combinations - or bi-association - reshuffling of already existing but separate ideas, facts, perceptions and concepts.

Adaptation and progress in knowledge rests on the shoulders of many, most of whom plod away anonymously, providing others with a nexus which otherwise would not exist.

Even great and notable scientists acknowledge their debt and realise that they are but a single link in a chain.

Newton: "If I have seen further than others, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 25 April 2013 3:23:56 PM
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No, but I can supply some common sense.
Poirot,
That's what many of us do every day of the year without costing others a lot of money for nothing in return.
Many even cop ridicule, why even you have dished that out here on many occasions when you didn't see or understand that common sense.
I have just had the pleasure of watching engineers waste a lot of your & my tax dollars despite myself & others offering them so much common sense that it almost hurt. Yet they went ahead with not listening to us. A great majority of so-called scientists fall into the same category as our engineers. End result ? No result for a lot of Tax payers Dollars.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 25 April 2013 6:19:31 PM
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I can't believe that none of the straightforward, clearly described defects in AGW in the article have been addressed.

Poirot links to the Unibomber and Heartland; an unnecessary juxtiposition of alarmists and cranks when AGW supporters do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIsritzu1og

AGW scientists are not honest because AGW science is flawed and wrong; only deniers, liars and ideologues and suckers continue to proselyse it.
Posted by cohenite, Thursday, 25 April 2013 10:57:59 PM
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"AGW scientists are not honest because AGW science is flawed and wrong; only deniers, liars and ideologues and suckers continue to proselyse it."

In that case, it's a wonder Heartland finds it necessary to come up with such (disastrous) whizz-bang campaigns to counter it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevezwick/2012/05/06/heartlands-unabomber-fiasco-is-par-for-the-course/
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:23:21 PM
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Moreover Poirot:

The Heartland Institute’s justification for using a couple of infamous psychological deviants on their billboards is to deny AGW and associate these nutters to anyone who genuinely thinks AGW is real and significant.

Anthony Cox, in saying:

>> AGW scientists are not honest because AGW science is flawed and wrong; only deniers, liars and ideologues and suckers continue to proselyse it" <<

is so profoundly stupid and is akin to what the Heartland Institute proselytizes themselves:

>> The most prominent advocates of global warming aren’t scientists. They are murderers, tyrants, and madmen <<

Yep, this so called 'lawyer' and political ideologue of the "Climate Sceptics Party" would equate people like Charles Manson and the Unabomber with the more prominent advocates of AGW such as the Dalai Lama, the Pope and pretty much all the scientific institutions on the planet - let alone the vast majority of real scientists practicing in their respective fields:

http://thiniceclimate.org/blog/details/2658/thin-ice-the-inside-story-of-climate-science
Posted by qanda, Friday, 26 April 2013 9:22:39 AM
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Typical deflection by Poirot and qanda who focus on Heartland's use of the unibomber to establish the crankery of AGW while similtaneously ignoring the despicable use of children by AGW to sell its message:

http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com.au/2011/09/kids.html

I mean look at the picture of the hanging girl used by the alarmists; and look at the other examples of children by the alarmists which are tantamount to child abuse:

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/39750.html

Kids are being terrified by the scaremongering:

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/australian-kids-are-living-in-climate-of-fear/story-e6frfkvr-1226091097398

They are being taught self-loathing:

http://mises.org/daily/2997#_ftn6

And all you defenders of the indefensible can come up with is how terrible Heartland is to use the unibomber.
Posted by cohenite, Friday, 26 April 2013 9:33:44 AM
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