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By Anthony Cox, published 22/4/2013What should we call global warming activists who claim that global warming is accelerating, despite the evidence?
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Posted by Curmudgeon, Monday, 22 April 2013 4:31:04 PM
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Dear Curmudgeon
I have read your posts on many topics over the years and often they are intelligent assessments of the topic, but in this case I am sorry to say that you simply don't know what you are talking about. There is simply NO doubt or disagreement about the general trends wrt global arming amongst any credible scientists. While you don't need a science degree if you are prepared to accept the advice of an expert on the subject, you do nee one if you wnat to argue credibly against the weight of scientific opinion. In Anthony's case I would ask him to consider how well a person untrained in law will represent themselves in court, or in say a complicated contract negotiation (because he is doing about as good a job at being a scientist as they would at being a lawyer). Posted by curious M, Monday, 22 April 2013 5:16:37 PM
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Curious M a One word answer to what you spouted "Thalidomide". Mate the white coat brigade caused immeasurable harm with that little money making exercise.
Scientists' are mostly full of it and I am not talking about knowledge or common sense! Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 22 April 2013 6:27:20 PM
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Cohenite you might be interested in this article, http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jnCMgTuH-RgCGG9TUZVgiydUGuyQ?docId=CNG.0ee139d75a2f023316209b2fb16cb626.2e1
It outlines how the earth was cooling until the end of the 19th century and a hundred years later, the planet's surface was on average warmer than at any time in the previous 1,400 years, according to climate records. In a study published in Nature Geoscience, scientists said a "long-term cooling trend" around the world swung into reverse in the late 19th century. In the 20th century, the average global temperature was 0.4 degrees Celsius (0.7 degrees Fahrenheit) higher than that of the previous 500 years, with only Antarctica bucking the trend. From 1971-2000, the planet was warmer than at any other time in nearly 1,400 years. This measure is a global average, and some regions did experience warmer periods than that, but only for a time. Europe, for instance, was probably warmer in the first century AD than at the end of the 20th century. The investigation is the first attempt to reconstruct temperatures over the last 2,000 years for individual continents. It seeks to shed light on a fiercely-contested aspect in the global-warming debate. Sceptics have claimed bouts of cooling or warming before the Industrial Revolution -- including two episodes in Europe called the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age -- are proof that climate variations are natural, not man-made. Previous research into climate change has pointed to a warming spurt in the 20th century and attributed it to the rise of heat-trapping carbon gases emitted by burning coal, oil and gas. Posted by Geoff of Perth, Monday, 22 April 2013 8:00:36 PM
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Curious M
You're just a denialist. The warmists have been challenged on this site over and over and over again to prove their case, and each time have shown they've got nothing but all the logical fallacies that comprise your post, namely assuming what's in issue, appeal to absent authority and ad hominem. Ho hum. All we can expect from those funded by big government to the tune of countless billions for a completely flaky belief system. Go and find out about the blatant fraud that comprises the scientific method your rely on before boring us with your cultic credulity. Geoff of Perth We have already established twice in two months that you are completely unable to defend the warmist argument many times over, so stop popping up and re-running the same cult fallacies. Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Monday, 22 April 2013 8:15:30 PM
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Wow, Peter's on form tonight...
Two "fallacies" An "absent authority" and an "ad hominem"! The spiel's on auto-play again. Posted by Poirot, Monday, 22 April 2013 8:28:08 PM
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the trouble with that attempt to dismiss obvious problems is that you don't need a degree in anything to see that there is a problem. You need one to fix it.. Scientists forecast various things and those forecasts, in temperatures and rainfall (with the poss exception of rainfall in WA), didn't work out..
So now that scientists have acknowledged the problem the next move is up to them. Maybe the theory is wrong or maybe it needs patching? either way it doesn't seem sensible to base policy on theory that still seems to be in difficulties..