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Gay marriage: an argument against : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 1/8/2012

Gender division cannot simply be erased because gays want to push their egalitarian agenda to the last bastion: marriage.

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@Jay Of Melbourne, "Homosexuality is natural..." Of course it's not.
Posted by TheTruth, Thursday, 2 August 2012 1:35:36 PM
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You're misconstruing. My assessment was of your argument, Tim.Lumsden.

You claimed being born gay was a myth – therefore you weren't. You claimed you acted homosexually – therefore, you were pretending to be something you're not. You claim you're now not denying yourself – therefore you're back where you started. Hence my comment about saving yourself all that trouble.

The arguments I feel threatened by are the same as for other people – dishonest, delusional, illogical irrational and impositional ones.

Anger and insecurity? Moi? Sorry to disappoint you, but not in the slightest. To quote you: "your assessment of me personally is without basis and uninformed…" But I'm still prepared to repeat my good luck wishes for your being happy and content never changing.
Posted by WmTrevor, Thursday, 2 August 2012 2:22:33 PM
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@Peter Sellick "Firstly the arguments based on rights is shown to be vacuous. I assert my right and you assert your right and that ends the discussion."

Why is my right to marry another man competing with your rights? That's not equality. The argument isn't vacuous because it is full of selfishness. You want your sexual rights, you want your religious rights and you are morally content to continue to steal my rights to freedom of my sexuality and my right to freedom of religious belief. Otherwise you would not have bothered to write the article. It is why you don't use 'equality' once or 'rights' but exaggerate the differences between us with cultural myths.

What is at stake here for religious people is their myths being shown to be immoral by the good living example of sex, gender and sexuality diverse people who really are part of the natural order that you deny. And just as adultery has been changed from first sexual encounter to parting by death or punishable by death to being annulled by divorce, you will have to accept a new morality of tolerance and acceptance of GLBTI marrying whoever they want.

@TheTruth - you are the one who isn't educated on the science of sex and gender and that there are people in between. It is easier to understand if you simplify it to sex as male-intersex-female and gender as man-transgender-woman. To understand how these 2 continuums are different you need to read about how they develop at different stages of foetal development and consequently it is no surprise they don't correspond 100% of the time. There is a reasonable chance better than pokies that your chromosomes don't match your external genitalia, even if you have successfully produced progeny.
Posted by Eric G, Thursday, 2 August 2012 4:31:45 PM
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A couple of centuries ago gays were burnt at the stake. Cultural norms have moved on. Marriage is a cultural construct. Ipso Facto there is room for marriage to change.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 2 August 2012 5:17:25 PM
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'A couple of centuries ago gays were burnt at the stake' I suspect that was long before the homosexual lobby hijacked the word 'gay' which really is a distortion of such a lifestyle.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 2 August 2012 6:23:10 PM
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Runner where you ever "Gay", as your extreme and nasty fundamentalist attitude towards your fellow beings, indicate you are a very unhappy person; and bereft of true happiness.
Posted by Kipp, Thursday, 2 August 2012 6:56:09 PM
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