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Gay marriage: an argument against : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 1/8/2012

Gender division cannot simply be erased because gays want to push their egalitarian agenda to the last bastion: marriage.

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Runner.
If you mean groups like Socialist Alternative you should know that they aren't really Leftists, they're pseudo Leftists who are run out of trades hall, ie they're Labor party stooges.
Their function as "Loony Leftists" is to disrupt any authentic opposition to the state originating from the Left, just as the "Neo Nazis" and groups like the Australian Defence League are employed to negate or discredit any opposition from the right.

With regard to "His Word" is it not apparent to you that Roman Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy are a compromise between Semitism and Paganism? That is to say it's the absolute limit as far as Indo Aryan conversion to a Universal point of view is concerned and now that it's diminished in it's ability to project power Europe is drifting back toward Paganism.
Now contrast that with the far Northern European or Anglo Saxon reaction to Semitism, it's very different because those peoples are what I'd call congenital egalitarians and they're the backbone of the puritanical "religious right" in the Anglophone countries.
When I talk about Paganism I mean Rome, ancient Greece and the worship of the Thor/Odin/Freya Trinity, that's the real Europe and I suspect that "Gay Marriage" is one of a raft of measures being deployed by the Anglo Saxon hegemony which are intended to block the growing resurgence of Paganism among Indo Aryan people.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 6 August 2012 7:25:48 PM
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@Kipp, There always has to be that one lonely loser who's so desperate for attention that he just posts any random nonsense hoping to impress the largest group on a thread, paying no mind to how dumb it actually makes him look. Kipp, if you seriously believe that there are no communists, you are the most ignorant mutt on the thread. What do you think Russia is? And China? And those clueless idiots waving Chavez flags every time that they riot? Do you think that they all just magically disappeared in the 1980s? Moron.

@runner, Just so you know, the reason that your bible tells you not to have pride is because people without pride are easy to control. Those with pride, on the other hand, are near impossible to beat. I don't have a problem with religion, but pride, a sin? You should be questioning that, not promoting it.

@Jay Of Melbourne, Let's add 'flaming closet fag' to your list. With all of your "effeminate male" and "homoerotica" fantasies, you're obviously queer. No one really cares if you want to spoon with other hairy-assed men "in the field." If you want to read gay fantasy novels, have fun. But, at least, stop stating the twisted opinions that they give you as "facts."
Posted by TheTruth, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 8:08:31 AM
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Actually, The Truth, I am a devout lefty who will always oppose eveything you stand and espouse for.
Facism will not be allowed to rise again, wether it be the extreme right or left.
Posted by Kipp, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 11:05:33 AM
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@Kipp

"Actually, The Truth, I am a devout lefty who will always oppose eveything you stand and espouse for."

That includes freedom, free speech, free will, freedom of religion, truth, justice and reality, among other things that the left despises.

"Facism will not be allowed to rise again, wether it be the extreme right or left."

Are you sure about that?
1. You just said you're a lefty. How does a lefty, of all people, plan to stop socialism (A.K.A. "fascism"), a left-wing political system? The left eats itself. As soon as you mention that you are against their regressive movement, they'll spit you out and pin you as "racist," "bigoted" and other words that they cannot define.

2. Socialism is already irreversibly underway in Europe and Israel and well on it's way in America and multiple other countries. How do you plan to stop something that is already there?

Sorry, Kipp, but the only thing left to do now is reverse this left-wing mess and that is why I'm here. I do not see what YOU plan on doing about it, other than worsening the situation, seeing as how you a) are a left-winger and b) do not believe that communism still exists. You've got a lot of thinking to do...
Posted by TheTruth, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 12:39:02 PM
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Prejudice is an irrational, inflexible attitude
towards an entire category of people. The word
literally means "prejudged." The key feature of
prejudice is that it is always rooted in
generalisations and so ignores the differences
among individuals. Thus, someone who is
prejudiced against Jews, for example, will tend
to have a negative attitude towards any
individual Jew, in the belief that all Jews share
the same supposed traits.

Do some people have personality patterns that make
them more prone to prejudice than others? A classic
study by Theodore Adorno and his associates tried to
answer this question. Adorno findings were that
some people have a psychological make-up that he
referred to as the "authoritarian personality." -
a distinctive set of traits, including conformity,
intolerance, and insecurity - that seem typical of
many prejudiced people. Those who have this personality
pattern he found, are submissive to superiors and
bullying to inferiors. They tend to have anti-intellectual
and anti-scientific attitudes.

They are disturbed by any ambiguity in sexual or religious
matters, and they see the world in very rigid and
stereotyped terms.

The authoritarian personality, Adorno claimed, is
primarily a product of a family environment in which the
parents were cold, aloof, disciplinarian, and themselves
bigoted.

Prejudiced people are not concerned about genuine
group characteristics, they simply accept any negative
statement that feeds their existing hostility.

Eugene Hartley found that people who were prejudiced
against one group tended to be prejudiced against others.
Nearly three-quarters of those who disliked Jews and
black also disliked such people as the Wallonians,
the Pireneans, and the Danireans. Some prejudiced
people even urged that members of the latter three groups
be expelled from the United States. As it happens, however,
the Wallonians, the Pireneans, and the Danireans were
fictitious names concocted by Hartley. His study convincingly
demonstrated the irrationality of prejudice, for it shows that
prejudiced people may be hostile toward groups they
could never have met or even have hard of.

A consistent feature of prejudiced thought is that it is
irrational - illogical and inconsistent. The Truth it is not.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 2:49:13 PM
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@Lexi, You might want to look up Frankfurt School and Institute for Social Research. They're a bunch of communists and socialists with 'authoritarian personalities'. Theodor Adorno was a Marxist-socialist nut. He lacked the ability to think rationally (or critically, for that matter); a typical intellectual, forever lost in fantasy; a Utopian hack, only questioning what has already been answered and stripping definition from everything we know (there's your "anti-scientific"). His biggest problem was that he was an "intellectual," i.e. a person whose head is full of garbage and hasn't a lick of common sense, nor the ability to think for themselves.

What you have written here explains the socialist mentality to a Tee: "conformity, intolerance, and insecurity."

Your second and third paragraphs explain nearly everyone that you will ever meet in your life. Does that mean that you hang out with racists and that your family are a bunch of racists? Talk about generalizations... That's no different than Homeland Insecurity calling anyone who loves their country or their freedom a "terrorist."

Your fourth paragraph is just backward. Authoritarian-types are extremely arrogant, which is not a trait of well-disciplined children, but of children who were spoiled and allowed to get away with anything. That's Adorno being a socialist nut: always explaining things backward, so as to remove the spotlight from themselves.

"Nearly three-quarters of those who disliked Jews and black also disliked such people as the Wallonians, the Pireneans, and the Danireans."

That doesn't even mean anything. Again, it just describes nearly everyone you know. Nearly three quarters of those who like chocolate also like vanilla. Nearly three quarters of those who dislike salt also dislike pepper.

Everyone in the world is prejudice. Especially those who deny it and most especially those who try to redirect their spotlight onto other people.
Posted by TheTruth, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 7:02:30 PM
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