running quote..""embassy..is an absolute disgrace.""

your mnaking the same mistake..athiests make ol mate
blaming the affect..back to a faulse cause

just as much as people hate religeon
yet them hate god

you hate the embassy[turn the other cheek bro...its the same appartheid..stuff going down in palestein]

beating up those who's right
is indisputable..so let look how you blamed
'god' gor this..sin of men...[the embassy]

""'White 'fellows money..is used by these people to eat,""

wrong..not one penny
in fact we klive by charity alone
wether its the salvo's bringing in old foodstuff..or the quakers building the elders tin hut..[that tuckey burnt down]..or the blessed tree loppers dwelivering our fire wood

or just guests beringing in a treat
or entertainment...[or giving private concerts..like george warrumpi..or sportspeople/or other native asosiations..just checking

all can stay there for free
fed and house...in christian style...

sure..there are those sent in to make us look bad
""get drunk,..fly around the country and create anarchy.""

but this largly stopped after iron bar turkey lost his job

""How we have let these people
become so dependant on welfare is a disgrace.""

heck mate the govt allways uses patsies
coconuts..bvlack outside white inside

""No wonder they have no dignity.""

cause a hungry man..will do anything
for one who opretends to love him..with booze drugs travel

much like the labratters party
busses in pre selection voters

its a dirty game
i tried 3 times to open a museum
to tell the truth..on site...

posted more here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4934&page=0

invite to juliar/here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4936&page=0

now im going to read
this article's precies/adgenda

I'd like to comment on the discussion paper published by the law council of Australia on constitutional recognition of indigenous Australians.

http://www.lawcouncil.asn.au/shadomx/apps/fms/fmsdownload.cfm?file_uuid=2D64AD56-CCF1-979E-72D9-9D0714E6855B&siteName=lca

The council;
"strongly supports the removal of those remaining sections of the Constitution which discriminate on the ground of race."

Including section 25 which anticipates the disqualification of persons of a particular race from voting and section 51(xxvi) which, as interpreted by the High Court provides a source of power for the enactment of racially discriminatory laws.

I completely agree with these constitutional changes. I would also tolerate the entirely symbolic preamble containing paragraphs recognizing Aboriginal people as the first peoples of Australia (or more accurately, the ones here when the british arrived).

However the inclusion of " with distinct identities and histories, as well as their prior occupation and ownership, continuing dispossession, and particular status in contemporary Australia" as suggested should not be included, as it suggests first that the identity of all Aboriginal people is defined as a victim, and second, that this will always be the case. Also, as the preamble will most likely include a section such as (Victorian Constitution)

"The Parliament does not intend by this
section- to affect in any way the interpretation
of this Act or of any other law in force in
Victoria."

Then by definition it will be meaningless. That however, is the minor problem.
The main flaw of this paper is that although the council "strongly supports the removal of those remaining sections of the Constitution which discriminate on the ground of race." they go on to say:

"It is one thing to prevent the
singling out of Indigenous Australians for adverse
treatment by a general guarantee of racial equality
and racial non-discrimination. It is another thing
to ensure that special or advantageous or beneficial
treatment of Indigenous Australians is not susceptible
to invalidation on the ground of infringing a
general guarantee of racial equality and racial nondiscrimination."

Which is positive discrimination, aka racial discrimination. I fully support amending the constitution to remove parts that discriminate based on race. This proposal does not do that.

Stezza,

All a bit moot after the riot, one would think. And this afternoon's march and flag-burning. And demands on universities to include the compulsory teaching of versions of Aboriginal Culture, funded, one suspects, from DEEWR allocations which are supposed to go solely to Indigenous student support.

But to take your point: yes, eliminate clauses which may be interpreted as racist in some way (I don't think that was their original intention, more like a move to take responsibility for Aboriginal affairs out of the hands of the States). But to then include an incredibly ambiguous clause to promote positive discrimination is almost mind-bogglingly dopey: 'advancement' defined by whom ? And if languages are to be preserved, for example, then what languages should schooling be in, in the NT ? Who decides ? What if some people want their kids taught in English, the language of secondary schooling, textbooks, higher education, and employment ?

If the Indigenous elite wishes to maintain the Gap, then they could hardly do better than push for these kinds of discriminatory measures. I guess, however, that these measures would require lifelong monitoring, therefore committee membership, overseas conferences and Labor Party accolades and promotions of all sorts.

I've knocked around Indigenous affairs for nearly fifty years but this measure will not get my vote in any Referendum. Take that any way you like. There is a lot of work to be done, so let's get down and start doing it instead of eternally whinging. I'm sick to bloody death of it.

Joe

today a bunch of aboriginals started burning the australian flag and spitting on it half of these abos arent even abos at all they are halfcasts you get all these benefits that a white person doesnt get you get millions every year to booze up and sniff petrol.if the white man gave you back your land as you want it wouldnt last long so the white man should take everything we gave you like clothes houses the food you eat and the education that you have as far as im concerned you are worth nothing in my eyes(they use to say to me as a white man you are scum)im not scum you are

...Well . well, what a surprise! I include in this addendum an inclusive salute to Mark McMurtrie, who with Michael Anderson pulled-off one of the most significant and succinct coups of any past Australian protest since the Vietnam War. A brilliant stroke of genius; congratulations!

I was of the opinion it was an unlawful act to deface the flag.

I also thought it was unlawful to make a public nucence of yourself, yell abuse, etc,etc.

I guess those laws only appliy to some, hey!