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Dispelling the myths about school chaplains : Comments

By Tim Mander, published 12/8/2011

The decision to allow school communities the option to receive federal funding for a chaplain requires some clarity...and a High Court ruling.

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"...which religion did the communist Chinese quote as an excuse to annex Tibet?"

Now we are getting somewhere Snagglepuss.

Equating communism with Protestant Christian dogma is a good start.

You are leaning grasshopper.

Amen.
Posted by Neutral, Saturday, 13 August 2011 5:29:14 PM
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I agree that we don't need anyone in secular public schools with the job of 'Chaplain'.
Public schools should not have any one religion with a special person in that school just to represent them.
If you want an openly religious person to 'minister' to your kids, then send them to a religious school.

Formersnag <"Be honest, tell me which is worse? closet communist indoctrination? or christian morals & ethics?"

I am wondering why it is that you think someone has to be a communist if they aren't Christian Formersnag?

I was just visiting communist Northern Vietnam (Hanoi) earlier this year, and I honestly never met one Vietnamese person who appeared to me to have questionable ethics or morals.

Are you suggesting we don't have morally corrupt Christians in this world?
Christianity does not have sole rights to morality in our world.

Formersnag <"Ammonite, i have never ever engaged in flaming or trolling as you well know."

Yeah right...
Posted by suzeonline, Saturday, 13 August 2011 6:11:50 PM
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I wouldn't have a problem with chaplains if they were part of a well-rounded team of social workers, counsellors, and psychologists. It is the special place Christian chaplains have managed to acquire, as well as the staunch defending of them.

Rather like the situation in NSW (and other states) with the protection of the special place for SRE/SRI, and the fight (NSW) or refusal (Vic) to allow alternatives for those that seek them.
Posted by McReal, Saturday, 13 August 2011 6:26:31 PM
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When Jesus told his followers to sell their possessions and share everything was that an early form of communism ?

Matthew 19:16-24 (the same event is also described in Mark 10:17-25 and Luke 18:18-25, )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
Posted by Dug, Saturday, 13 August 2011 6:38:45 PM
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Rot indeed, yerself, Formersnag,

If you're under the impression that all those mill and factory owners who instituted cruel and inhuman work practices upon the newly urbanised population of Britain, and who fought tooth and nail against the Factory Acts, didn't park their oversized derriere's on the front pews of the church every Sunday, you're deluded.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 13 August 2011 9:00:02 PM
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If Tim Mander's chappy army doesn't proselytise, why does he expect them to "operate under" Scripture Union's Aims & Working Principles?

http://apply.su-chaplain.com/index.php?cmd=information
(under 'Essential Info' tab)

"SU QLD Chaplains must agree to and operate under:
•the SU Aims and Working Principles, and
•SU Statement of Beliefs, and/or
•one or more of the creeds of the Christian Church (Apostles’ Creed, Nicene Creed and/or Athanasian Creed)"

http://www.scriptureunion.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47&Itemid=54

"Working with the churches, Scripture Union aims
a. to make God’s Good News known to children, young people and families and
b. to encourage people of all ages to meet God daily through the Bible and prayer."

Scripture Union's main goal is to gain converts, and that's what SU chaplains are required to do. How could any rational person deny it?
Posted by Vance, Saturday, 13 August 2011 9:57:56 PM
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