I run a large NFP in youth disadvantage. My staff just get to pick up the referrals from the school chaplains who are not at all qualified to deal with the big issues these kids are facing. It would be far more effective if these funds had been put into skilled staff who are already working with youth in the sector. THis programme is an obscene redirection of sorely needed funds away from a non-judgemental and skilled workforce.
The bulk of our money is spent on wages of highly skilled counsellors with specialist training in adolescent mental health and community development. If chaplains could do this work, I would employ a bunch of chaplains and it would be a deal cheaper I am sure. But it is entirely inappropriate. Also, so many of our clients who need help are outside the school system, with little access to the counselling they need. Again, these funds should have gone to support the NFP sector already working with youth and families both in and out of school, with a professional qualification, scope of practice and non-judgemental framework .It is shameful that a Labor government did not scrap this program and use the funds to boost youth mental health services in the community.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12461#215340

Louella, the reality however is exactly the opposite, given the opportunity closet communists degrade children by indoctinating them with evil propaganda, instead of "decent" morals & ethics from christianity, they fill their heads with filthy lies.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630135369495797236#

http://www.henrymakow.com/uns_planned_pedophilia.html

seriously, which do you think is worse? some christianity or closet communist, corporate paedophilia?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12461#215347

McReal, it is a well documented scientifically proven fact that the closet communist, PC, Thought Police have been attacking every foundation of our formerly civil society, so as to destroy it, replace it with an international socialist, Chinese led, UN, NWO.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024690/UK-riots-2011-Britains-liberal-intelligentsia-smashed-virtually-social-value.html

child abuse is child abuse is child abuse, what part of child abuse is evil, don't you understand?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12461#215348

Squeers, correct the RED/green, getup, GAYLP/alp, Socialist Alliance has outlived its usefulness & will soon be dead.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12461#215350

Philo, actually in my experience all roles can be done way worse by a closet communist, secular counselor. Give me a concerned, christian chaplain anyday.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12461#215351

meljane, spoken like a "true believer", closet communist.

Tut tut, how dare you refer to "my clients" this signifies ownership, you must, according to the PC, Thought Police refer to "the people i work with".

Naughty naughty, perhaps you think this is better?

http://www.henrymakow.com/uns_planned_pedophilia.html or this?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630135369495797236# or this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024690/UK-riots-2011-Britains-liberal-intelligentsia-smashed-virtually-social-value.html

do any of you closet communists have any more lies to tell?

Well, Formersnag, that was a balanced post : )

Is it any wonder the covert injection of Christianity into the secular school system is questioned when we're confronted with rhetoric like that?

Brilliant article Tim. Perhaps we have to rip God out of our musical world and disregard the wisdom of Sting. "We are spirits in a material world". Perhaps we have to rip God out of our Constitution which says "Humbly relying on the blessings of almighty God," and remove the unashamed proclamation of Australia's faith in a higher power and rewrite our constitution. Perhaps we have to then rip fathers out of families and God out of Schools and watch while our cities burn as they are in England. They will burn because a Godless and fatherless generation have no need for rules and regulations that infringe "their personal rights to murder and mayhem". Only then will we be able to dance for joy with our atheistic elites that make up 10% of our population. For they will surely have achieved their desired result.

Given the large numbers of atheists and non christians living in our society it makes me wonder about comments made by those who are apparently christians here.

Obviously they live in fear and terror of the massed hordes of atheist communist muslim psychopaths who rampage through the streets frothing at the mouth and baying for blood ( Christian blood of course :)

I cannot imagine the mentality of people who can whip themselves into such a frenzy of fear and delusion.

Obviously they do not get out much.

Can I suggest that they undertake a simple exercise to allay these paranoid fears ?

Walk down any street in any city in Australia count the people as they pass, for every 10 people you count 1 will be an atheist.

See if you can spot the raving closet communist murdering psychopath from the other 9 "Good Christians" :-)

News flash guys
Atheists are like the rest of the population, there are good bad and indifferent.

We do not have horns growing out of our heads, we do not have secret agendas for world domination. We have jobs families and lives. The only difference between you and us is we do not believe in a god and some of us are concerned about having the beliefs of others forced onto us.

there is a golden rule "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

If you do not want to have atheist caring for your kids at schools then pay us the same courtesy Don;t expect us to want to have your believers doing this to our kids. it is about respecting the rights of others.

end of story.

Tim ? Tim? where are you Tim ?

are you reading this ?

Why not discuss and defend what you have written ?

tim are you there or hiding ?