Philo

Humans have provided succour, comfort and compassion for one another long before Christianity. And we still do.

One does not have to offer a fairy tale to provide hope.

I would like to know how a ten year can accept that a 'loving' god took his mother from him. How do you explain that?

Protestant Christianity beliefs were also the justification for murdering, enslaving and ruining people for personal enrichment and for colonising their homelands.

With their homelands plundered the destitute future generations as British Subjects and members of the commonwealth sought a better life in the UK where the opportunities proved to be just as dismal.

Perhaps the Protestant Christian biblical concept of sowing and reaping does not apply to a Protestant Christian system that privatises profits (good capitalism) while socialising losses (bad communism).

Philo quite simple

you tell the child the truth not some made up fairy story

you hug hold comfort and encourage the child you show love care and affection.

you nurture and support.

you do not make up stories about old men in the sky taking his mother away

you say honestly your mother loved you and would do anything to be with you but sometimes people get sick and die. She had no choice she tried to stay here with you but it happened and it is sad terribly sad.

Now we love you and you carry your mother's hopes and dreams with you, you need to live a good life and have children in her memory.

One of the most horrendous things that is often said to grieving children is "God needed your parent more so he took them to heaven" That is just a lie and unspeakably cruel but I have heard it said so often it is an obscenity.

Some Christians can be very cruel and uncaring people.

Mr Mander,

Asserted truisms, motherhood statements and special pleading aside:

1) What does a chaplain do that a secular pastoral care worker cannot?

2) How is it right and fair that the Commonwealth funds, privileges and promotes discrimination in employment, via the NSCP, on the basis of religion?

The problem is NOT that chaplains are bad people. I have no doubt they are overwhelmingly good people with good intentions.

The problem, in the opinion of one who values authentic freedom of belief in Australia, is that the government has no business using taxpayer funds - and no basis in evidence - to create and prop up programs of an intrinsically and compulsorily religious nature over other alternatives.

The state should not privilege religion, even a majority religion, over those who dissent from it.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12461#215365

Ammonite, i have never ever engaged in flaming or trolling as you well know.

i never said ordinary atheists do that on sunday, i said they just go about their lives. i said as you well know that closet communists pretending to be atheists infiltrate our education system so they can indoctrinate their children with PC, Thought Police spinganda.

really very silly using such tactics.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12461#215366

Poirot, rot indeed, as you well know it was the honesty of protestant christians like Elizabeth Fry, during the industrial revolution that led to improvements in pay, conditions along with the "co-operative movement" which was killed off in the land of OZ by Comrades Whitlam, Hawke & Keating in the 1980's.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12461#215367

Squeers, have i ever suggested that every christian who ever lived is perfect? or that every church has been perfect?

Next you will be telling me that every communist in history is a saint. you are the perfect "counter revolutionary" Squeers.

connect the dots, left wing politics was invented as a reactionary, counter revolutionary strategy by your beloved catholic church to stop the "enlightened" protestant christians from democratising the 1st world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt

all left wing politics was invented as a self oppression tool. stop the blue collar working classes from co-operating with the white collar middle classes, when will you WAKE UP?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ9myHhpS9s&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju3h7yk4Hcg&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQkcP0olmQY&feature=related

the loony left spinganda gets more obvious, ridiculous every day.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12461#215373

Neutral, by name but reactionary by nature, which religion did the communist Chinese quote as an excuse to annex Tibet?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12461#215374

Dug, & next you will be telling me the communist counselor never does any prosletising while they are at it.

Would a lesbian or Bisexual woman working in a DV refuge have access to vulnerable women & girls?

Formersnag, you should really see a doctor about those hallucinations..