Israeli Arabs will never reconize Eretz Israel's Jewish Soul,' which is why they never sing the national anthem.
The Arab offer guaranteeing of a peace based on the pre-1967 borders without a parallel guarantee of Eretz Israel's needed lebensraum now and in the future is useless. Arab's failure to accept first class citizenship and the right of return for only true citizens of Israel shows their bad faith.

Amicus, logic is not one of your strong suits. You argue in your comment that people shouldn't go back in time when basing their claims for land.

Yet the Israelis have gone back more than 2,000 years in their claim which involves stealing land from the Palestinians to make a racist state.

Buy a book on logic. You'll learn a lot and stop making silly statements.

davidg you can pick these things to bits if you like - you'll see earlier, that I said

"By staying, where the incumbent is unmovable, the Palestinians are condemning generations to misery" Key word is immovable .. OK?

Do I have to repeat myself, each time I post?

If the jews have the might to take and hold the land fine, good for them - if the Palestinians .. or anyone else can dislodge them, good for them - but that's been tried and the Israelis whooped them good.

So if you can't move the incumbent, move on, or should I repeat everything again?

"You'll learn a lot and stop making silly statements." applies equally to you I believe, if you read what people post and not just go off half cocked.

There's no need for you to repeat your silliness over and over, Amicus.

Your attitude that 'might is right' is held by many people in the world, especially Israelis and Americans. Hitler had a similar view.

Of course, people like you hold that view when they are part of the 'might' side of the equation. I know you would squeal like a stuck pig if someone or some nation came along and, being stronger, took everything you had and threw you out into the street.

It's easy to make grand statements about what other people should do when you're in a comfortable leather armchair!

Surely BOTH sides in the middle-east believe that "might is right".
Surely enough, BOTH claim they don't when they are on the receiving end of the stick - and that's a form of might too, the might of propaganda, the might of tears...

Now honestly David, would you not yourself have used your might against Israel and the USA if you could (without risking anything yourself)?

The relevant question which Amicus raises here is, why do generations upon generations of Palestinian refugees need to suffer so badly, especially those in Lebanon? Why do they need to be locked up in poverty and violence within refugee camps, why are they not allowed out into the world, to work, to study, to see the beach, to immigrate, to start having their own life: the Lebanese government holds those miserable twice-victim refugees as hostages, as part of their propaganda war against Israel. Do you support this inhumane use of might?

(http://refugees.resist.ca/document/situationlebanon.htm)

Yuyutsu, the Palestinians haven't moved on because they hope that, one day, they will be accorded justice and have their land returned to them while the racist interlopers, who came from countries all over the world, will be thrown out on their ears and forced to return to where they came.

I hope I live to see this day when one of the world's greatest injustices is reversed. Of course, this assumes the Israelis don't start dropping nukes on their neighbours and precipitate a nuclear holocaust which could destroy our world.

Amicus will be pleased if this happens given that he supports the mighty no matter how deranged they are!