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Palestine: Jew haters - like Koran burners - cannot be condoned : Comments

By David Singer, published 17/9/2010

The inability of the Arabs to accept a Jewish State in the midst of 21 Islamic Arab states is at the heart of resolving the Arab-Jewish conflict.

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Haters of any sort cannot be condoned but regardless, some people, particularly the dispossessed, will find ways to hate (someone to blame).

What is more worrying is the tendency for some commentators to lump anyone who might criticise Israels colonial history and treatment of the Palestinians as 'Jew haters'. It is dishonest and disingenuous and does not serve to resolve what is a very tragic situation for all concerned.

The racist attitudes towards Palestinians should also not be condoned, neither should terrorism be condoned. The Middle East is a mess.
Posted by pelican, Friday, 17 September 2010 3:40:52 PM
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To David G

You erroneously state :

"Since 1967 all of the Palestinians have been under brutal occupation."

In fact:

1. 55% of the West Bank Arabs living in 17% of the West Bank are entirely under the administrative and security control of the PA.

2. 41% of the West Bank Arabs living in 24% of the West Bank are under Israeli security control and PA administrative control.

3. Only 4% of the West Bank Arabs living in the remaining 59% of the West Bank are under Israeli administrative and security control.

I have previously identified you as a Jew-Hater and your failure to mention the thousands of deaths and injuries suffered by Jews in the West Bank since 1967 - culminating with the murder two weeks ago of two married couples - one pregnant - leaving seven orphans to grieve their parents - confirms that view.

Whilst such murders continue strict security controls remain necessary.

The settlements are not illegal as you claim. They are legal under article 6 of the Mandate for Palestine and article 80 of the United Nations Charter.

To MacReal

Israel is a Jewish State because the reconstitution of the Jewish National Home in Palestine was prescribed by the League of Nations.The United Nations also recommended partition of western Palestine into a Jewish State and an Arab State.

Certainly the Arabs are entitled to reject every proposal to share Palestine with the Jews - as they indeed have done since 1937. However this intransigence has brought nothing but suffering and misery to both Jews and Arabs. Is this to be the perpetual position?

If the PA can't work out a solution with Israel then Jordan appears to be the only Arab state that can come to an agreement with Israel.

A new border between Israel and Jordan based on direct negotiations between those States would resolve the issue of sovereignty of the West Bank and determine the future citizenship of the Jews and Arabs presently living there.
Posted by david singer, Friday, 17 September 2010 3:41:56 PM
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Israel is the most dangerous destablising country on the planet.It must stop it's war mongering with Iran.No country in the Middle East can threaten it.It has a conservative estimate of 200 nukes and the means to deliver them.Iran has yet to develop one.Why is Iran such a threat when Pakistan which is far more unstable has lots fo nukes?

If Israel stopped the slow genocide of the Palistinians then they will have some credibility.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 17 September 2010 4:11:21 PM
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poirot you are wrong to assume everyone thinks the way you and your hateful vengeful types do.

My father's family was from the baltic states, when the russians occupied their homes and transported people to other areas, he got out - and moved on.

If i was turfed out of my house by someone obviously stronger and with no recourse, then I too would move on, and not spend my life in agony and pain hating for the sake of it, then teaching my children to hate and encouraging them to join others hating.

That's why I see things this way, the palestinians have had so many opportunities to move on, but they won't, big egos, big money from other arab states .. they are the front line and the proxies of other arabs who hate the jews as well.

personally I think the jews are very controlled in their responses to the constant attacks, the worldwide humiliation from the press, the pariah status all progressive types label them with and the fact they live under such a threat is a credit to their demeaner.

Look, poirot, should the anglo saxons still hate the normans? The australian indigenous still hate the anglo saxons, but now extend it to hate everyone (that's the source of their pain) not even an pology helped did it .. they hate and are encouraged to continue hating

this stuff goes on and always have, people get displaced .. if you don't move on, it eats you up and you end up in poisonous hatred forever.

my father coached our family against harbouring desires to "get our land back", or get revenge or whatever, his advice was to get on with your life and do the best you can with it.

you on the other hand, are spiteful for the palestinians and take up their hatred, if they stop hating, if peace comes - how will they answer to you who are busy hating jews on their behalf?
Posted by rpg, Friday, 17 September 2010 4:43:53 PM
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Hopefully Iran will develop the bomb and then we'll have peace in the ME.

At the moment there is simply no need for Israel to make peace. Their military is by far the best equipped and trained. It is only when they are faced with a serious adversary that they will recognise the need for peace. They know this and will continue expanding the settlements, creating 'facts on the ground' until the realpolitik of a nuclear armed adversary demands they agree to a solution.

When they have a reason to make peace it will happen quickly.
Posted by dane, Friday, 17 September 2010 5:00:36 PM
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Good one rpg! Well said. So true.
Posted by Constance, Friday, 17 September 2010 5:19:32 PM
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