Yuyutsu

Hating 250000 Jews by classifying them as "hard core criminals" - when they have committed no crime - is Jew hatred and racial vilification of the worst kind.

Do you think that millions of religious Jews who live in America, England,France and Australia with identical religious views to the 250000 who inhabit the West Bank are also hard core criminals?

You then state:

"According to your logic, Hezbollah are also innocent: while they amass 10000s missiles over Israel's northern border, they "are really not yet hard core criminals but will become hard core criminals when they act as you believe they will sometime in the future".

Wrong Yuyutsu.

Your perverted logic - like your common sense - is really starting to fail you.

Hezbollah has already committed thousands of intentionally indiscriminate attacks on Israel's civilian population causing death, injury and trauma. They are acknowledged terrorists and murderers - gutless cowards who hide behind the skirts of Lebanon's civilian population. They have a track record of proven criminal activity against innocent civilians - both Jewish and Arab. They are hard core criminals of the most repulsive and reprehensible kind.

How can you possibly seek to equate 250000 religious Jews who have not yet committed any criminal activity on your own admission with a murderous outfit like Hezbollah that has been murdering and terrorising for years?

I hope you are prepared to listen and appreciate the racial incitement that you are engaging in and terminate it.

As for David G he continues to rant and rave with ever increasing ferocity only exposing himself further as a true disciple of Hitler. I wonder when he is going to get on to the Jews controlling the media, the banks and everything else in the world. Talking to such people is pointless. Exposing them is all one can do. He hides behind the cloak of anonymity - too gutless to reveal his identity.

Anyone who wants six million Jews to fold up the Jewish State and clear out to America is obviously off the planet.

David G.,

Like you, I hate what the/xxx/SOME Israeli Jews are doing to the Palestinians: I also hate what the/xxx/SOME Palestinians are doing to the Israelis.

Only SOME of the Israeli Jews have imperial plans (which I hate just as yourself) or think about Greater Israel. By claiming that they all do, you in fact blame my family as well, none of which has similar aspirations and none of which have personally wronged Palestinians or contempt them. This will not be tolerated.

David Singer,

"Do you think that millions of religious Jews who live in America, England,France and Australia with identical religious views to the 250000 who inhabit the West Bank are also hard core criminals?"

No. Almost every human, at some point or another in their life, has an urge to do something really bad. Nevertheless, most of us, being reasonable and normative citizens, are able to control this urge and refrain from acting upon it. Those 250000 have crossed their bounds, the others did not. It is true that religious Jews pray for their Messiah to come, but as long as it remains just that, prayer, it can be seen as a legitimate method of anger-management.

Both Hezbollah and the settlers have committed hineous criminal activities in the past, to whatever extent they had the power to commit. What both plan and actively prepare for, if they are allowed to proceed, is of new orders of magnitude.
No need to repeat the crimes of Hezbollah. As for the settlers, besides their very presence as civilians in a military zone, which is a crime, they continuously harass the Arabs around them, take their homes, chop their trees, burn their crops, limit their movement, take their water, etc. with the express intent of driving them out of the land. By provoking and alienating the local population, they bring reciprocal terrorism into Israel as well as force the Israeli army to suffer casualties while protecting them.

I do not judge people by their race - only by their actions and intentions.

The Singer, sounding menopausal, becomes ever more shrill and insulting. A typical lawyer, he really can't handle people disagreeing with him.

But it's interesting to note that he will not engage on the topic of Greater Israel. He won't because that would expose his little scheme to con readers of OLO that Israel is innocent of brutality and genocide and that it really wants the Palestinians to have their own State.

Nothing could be further from the truth! Israel wants all the land between the Nile and the Euphrates.

Google 'Greater Israel' and find out the truth!

David G.,

"Nothing could be further from the truth"

Sorry, but this is only a half-truth.

"Israel wants all the land between the Nile and the Euphrates"

The truth is that Israel is the most divided and fragmented society in the world. Stating that "Israel wants xyz" is sheer nonsense - whatever xyz is, there will be some Israelis in favour and some against.

Israel is in this predicament because Hitler never cared what people thought or believed, whether they were good or bad, nice or ugly, religious or secular - he defined Judaism on a crude (and doubtful at that) basis of blood-line and that's it. As a result, all kinds of people who were defined by Hitler as Jews, flocked to Israel for safety, people who would otherwise never share the same roof together.

Now you must make a stand: Singer claimed that you are "a true disciple of Hitler". You may either acknowledge it by continuing to make blanket statements about Jews and Israelis, or refute it by making distinctions, observing the complexity of the situation and looking at Jews and Israelis as individuals.

So Singer you agree with Yuyutsu's characterisation of jews?

From what I understand from his explanation is that jews say they believe in god but really they dont.
They (ab)use their god and their religion to further their earthly wealth and progress in any way possible. They use their god to justify harming others. But they dont actually believe?
It sounds like more of an ethnic group than a religion or a race.
Seems eerily familiar.
Seems a lot like the mafia.
Acts like it too.

I have no respect for any religion but at least the moslems and the christians actually believe the garbage they are taught. You people are just hypocrites of the worst order.
If this is actually the way jews see their religion then how the hell did they con the world into thinking it was so important to give them back the land their god supposedly gave them. Either they are a pious people following their gods orders or they are miscreants misrepresenting themselves and fooling the whole world.
I could understand the world helping a downtrodden religious group suffering unfair persecution but not giving a particular ethnic group some other peoples land. The ONLY reason Israel exists is because the jews said that was their god given land. Now it turns out they diss their god like hes some sort of fairy and only bring him out to fool and coerce the goyim.

It's a pointless exercise arguing about one side being right and the other side being wrong.

They are BOTH wrong.

BOTH sides have committed horrific atrocities against civilians.

They are BOTH wrong.