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The masculinity crisis : Comments

By Warwick Marsh, published 17/6/2010

The crises in masculinity and men’s health are closely related to the rampant discrimination men endure at the hands of the system.

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Feminist Eva Cox, once made this statement in response to male suicide.

<The most reknowned was her response to the question of males committing suicide in far greater numbers than females, when she noted “as least they (men) are doing something right”.>

Admittedly she later retracted her statment, yet the fact is that she made it in the first place.

When the analogy was made about women being uncovered meat, there was a huge hue and cry over that statement, yet when Eva showed little empathy for male suicide rates, the silence was deafening.
Posted by JamesH, Monday, 28 June 2010 7:14:31 AM
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Maggie Hamilton wrote an interesting book title "what men dont talk about"

I wonder how many of the female posters have ever read it, or more importantly are 'willing' to read it?

She has also written "What is happening to our boys?"
Posted by JamesH, Monday, 28 June 2010 8:33:06 AM
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'Previous posts noted "real man fixed my step"..or "painstakingly moved four massive pots"...So you want the services of "real men" but not the masculinity?'

Yep, the rest of what he's saying is BMS (Bitter Man Syndrome), but there's no denying he's gotcha there!

Oh how the cries of chauvinism would abound if billy had lauded the real women who made him nice meals.

Good to know we have the definitive definition of masculinity. The real men of the world are the ones who selflessly do manual work for women they don't know for no pay.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 28 June 2010 9:39:11 AM
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Couldn't have said it better Houellebecq.

Bitter, I know, but I reckon I have real reason to be. The female gender (I'm being very cautious with terminology because CJ Morgan is very intelligent...-he told me-...and associates with educated people) have collectively made it really hard to be a man (sob).

Seriously, I have known lots of men that have taken their lives because they can no longer cope.....For me, I have never taken masculinity that seriously...What I do take seriously is the cavalier attitude the female gender has towards marriage, their family, the role of the father, and of course the welfare of their kids (They'll make sure they have long pants on in winter, but will take their father away with little regard). Before anyone attacks me, look at the stats. They don't lie. The female gender (collectively woman) are terminating 42% of marriages. I did the sums myself (see CJ Morgan I'm really smart too, though I don't know what antediluvian means)....

So besides being far too sensitive on this forum, what as woman (yes I know you're a man CJ Morgan, a modern one at that...) have you done to reverse these very destructive trends [they could even affect your sons now and later in life)....].....Do you agree with other woman when they complain about their husbands or do you say " hang on what about this and this and this"? Or when they tell you they are leaving for another man, do you tell them, that is hardly a solution to a problem you have not told your husband existed?

Bitter, you bet...Just like 42% of the male population....
Posted by billythekid, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:05:54 AM
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Oh, sorry, you have mistaken me for someone who may be supportive of the rest of your arguments.

Anyone has 100 reasons to be bitter, but as celebrity Peter Endre once said, 'being bitter is like drinking poison and hoping the other person will die.'

>'Do you agree with other woman when they complain about their husbands or do you say " hang on what about this and this and this"?'

Well, I'm one of those annoying people who always plays devils advocate. When my partner tells me about how she sympathises with her friends marriage break-up, I always take the 'hidden' partner's side. The one with no voice in the argument. I know who I'm supposed to sympathise with, but that would be no fun.

The benefit of this is that my partner no longer regales the ins and outs of these dramatic fights between people I don't know or care to know.

I hope you take the hint.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:20:41 AM
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billythekid,

Could you enlighten us on who is terminating the other 58% of marriages?
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 28 June 2010 10:27:42 AM
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