floatinglili

>> Unfortunately, we as a society do not applaud our wonderful men nearly enough... <<

Which ones? Shane Warne, Wayne Carey?

Or

Men like Professor Patrick McGorry? No, he was made an Officer of the Order of Australia (quite deservedly, no doubt.

Perhaps it should be the vast majority of unknown men who care for the people in their lives, volunteer as carers, firefighters, and other community services. Not unlike what the vast majority of women do in their every day lives.

A man like a postal delivery man who repaired my wooden steps just because he wanted to - no catch, no expectation, just wanted to help. I don't imagine this particular man as having any masculinity crisis.

Yeah, exactly!
Like the fabulous delivery man who painstakingly moved four massive pots into the back of my yard, because he wanted to, and because he had time to kill before the next delivery.

Great men really do make the world go around, just as much - if not more - than women.

In an era where more women than men go to university... but more men own and lead businesses, men are still in a position to create incredible good.

My husband's ability (in the female-dominated workplace) to rise above the petty and trivial aspects of office politics, for the greater good, is inspirational, and I see this as a somewhat masculine trait.

Of course, as with any discussion of the this type, broad sweeping generalisations fall over because gender is only an aspect of the individual.

I do find, and this is only anecdotal, that mothers tend to allow much rougher play amongst boys, with less emphasis on personal responsibilities. Perhaps 'Boys will be boys' is not an adequate parenting reponse in modern times

It is reported to me that mothers who are members of mothers clubs, spend a lot of their time denigrating their husbands, the fathers of their children.

Another friend told me how some of her married female friends treat their marriage like a business proposition. He earns the money so they can enjoy the type of luxurious lifestyle that they want to have.

lillian writes that our society celebrates macho, bullying violent men. Yet a man can can be macho without being a bully or violent and the last time I looked, violent men are usually punished by the law in some way.

I'm so glad I'm no longer married! Modern woman run this world (I don't mean as per J Gillard...That's cool; she'll do a great job! I mean law bias, attitudes, magazines, the media direction, men pandering to woman)and it's not much fun trying to be someone/something I'm not...I pity my boys being raised most of their time at their mothers' house (because of course the judge awarded her more custody).

Yes I agree floatinglili, boys should never be allowed to play rough..They should sit in the corner with their hands firmly by their sides waiting for directions from the girls and the female teacher.

The term "boys will be boys should never be used in modern society"...We'd much rather they behave like girls...

What a ridiculous argument this is. Boys are boys, and men are men despite it being "a modern world". We have never tried to change who woman are and never will...THAT is the difference. Women are seeking something we cannot give and they will not find. They are set to fail. Previous posts noted "real man fixed my step"..or "painstakingly moved four massive pots"...So you want the services of "real men" but not the masculinity? I'm confused; and that's what this thread is about... What fairytale did woman get this deluded image of men from?

These are the first generations of boys being predominately raised by woman...As one of very few male teachers, I can predict, by behaviour and mannerisms, which boys don't have active fathers.

It's just occurred to me, this problem is perpetual...That is, as men pretend to be something they are not and raise their girls to expect something different to who men actually are, the more these girls will be disappointed when they marry a man. God help society....

Boys will be boys, men will be men, and billythekid will be single until he sheds his antediluvian attitude to women.

"antediluvian" Please explain.....

In fact I'm not single. I have a stunning girlfriend who is 13 years younger...She wants to marry me! BUT, see, I hesitate because I fear that she will do what I have seen so, so, so many woman do...Find someone else that they then think is different to all other men....

I'm no different to any other man and neither are the new guys these woman find...

So before patronising me with ridiculous words this articulate guy has never heard of....Have a look at what woman are doing to men..I mean it....Consider for one minute what woman have done to our entire gender...