"Could you enlighten us on who is terminating the other 58% of marriages?"...How many months have 28 days? They all do..Some have more.

It is 42% of all marriages woman terminate...Woman terminate marriage at a rate of 5 to 1. Back of envelope maths..50% marriages fail...Woman terminate 42% of all marriages.

I don't have too many friends on here...Is this a masculinity problem that the noisy masses simply drown out the voice of men who feel society and particularly the female gender are being unfair? What's left for some? Depression and suicide.

Attacking me is not an argument...Let's hear what you are doing about any of the problems i have raised, or even if you acknowledge men are getting a raw deal.....Woman HAVE equality, in fact they have far more than equality. They run (metaphorically) society, election results, political direction, the media, the law and courts, our kids, our schools, our work places....

billythekid,

My mistake - I thought you meant 42% of "failed" marriages.

Nevertheless, I believe the posters on this forum are bewildered by the vehemence of your bitterness - if you can't move beyond your intense feelings of animosity toward the female gender, I suspect your future experience of life will be less than it could be.

I agree entirely Poirot...

I wish I knew how...My life experiences have shaped my opinions...Weren't woman bitter and I guess therefore motivated before the necessary reforms a couple of generations ago?...I suggest men are now suffering even more than woman were then...Woman had dreams that were not fulfilled, men presently have their kids ripped from them...How is this any different (cringing hoping I don't go over the top here) from say American slavery where people were stolen, or the Australian stolen generation, or forced adoption back in the day? Man, someone wrote in this forum that woman give birth to kids..Is that the argument is it. Is that the reason men can be dismissed as unimportant regarding kids?....The only way I get through life is by being completely ambivalent to what's happened and where I am going with a broken family that wasn't my choice....Men who can't do that end up in the morgue...I've seen it dozens of times.....Have the knockers on this site actually read what i have written and actually thought through what it would be like to be some of the men I have described? I am bitter because I see these men (and wonder what my options are) dust themselves off, get involved with someone else, only to give away far more than what's fair when they separate. It's not about money...It's about what's fair...And currently, it sure aint fair...

Masculinity IS the problem we are talking about isn't it?

billythekid,

It is true that most of us tend to see things through the lens of things we have experienced.
In your case, it has poisoned your outlook to an entire gender - which for your sake is a shame.
I have an acquaintance who has been treated abominably by his wife, along the lines of your own experience (possibly even worse). He, however, has embraced the support offered by those who care about him - including the women - as he is aware that it is pointless to blame the entire gender for the failings of one of its members.
There will always be failings by members of both genders and it is society's responsibility to get the balance right in dealing with marriage break-ups. Perhaps ,as you point out, the balance has now swung a little too far the other way. (I suggest, however, that for a women to inflict pain so ruthlessly on a man in such a manner it indicates a fault in her individual personality).
On the other hand, My own father gambled and drank to excess and consequently made our lives as small children an utter misery. My mother stayed with him (up to a point) because she felt she had little choice. All my scars re: growing up came from the period when my father's addictions ruled our lives.

billythekid - I think you need to be a bit more honest, both with yourself and others.

<< I have known lots of men that have taken their lives because they can no longer cope.... >>

Really? How many's lots? I suspect you haven't personally known very men at all who've suicided.

<< CJ Morgan is very intelligent...-he told me- >>

No I didn't. I just used an ordinary word that you didn't know and are too ignorant to look up.

As I've said, rather than railing on about how women in general have spoiled your life, you need to have a good hard look at yourself and make some changes, otherwise you're always going to be bitter and twisted.

Since you're determined to reject the good advice that most people here are giving you, perhaps you need to seek the assistance of a professional therapist or counsellor. Despite your self-denial, you are clearly having problems with your masculinity. You need to sort them, otherwise your anger and bitterness could get the better of you.

Some of us here are blokes who've been where you are now, so we know it's possible to address such problems and move on in life as mature adult men, rather than dwelling endlessly on the apparent unfairness of it all.

James H
While I find Eva Cox's straightforward style very refreshing, she has said many stupid things. Cox does not speak for or represent all women. We could spend much wasted time posting derogatory comments made by high profile men, like Sam Newman, about women and vice versa but it means nothing in this conversation. It just reverts the conversation to tit for tat.

BTK
Fact is there are male and female nongs - no gender holds the high moral ground.

Let's face it we all tend to support our own gender in marriage breakups unless the person has committed some great and obvious wrong, but most breakups are much more complicated and have evolved slowly into the mess they end in.

There is no doubt that there is a masculinity crisis for some men and boys.

It would be interesting to hear exactly what it is we want from the opposite sex (or same-sex in homosexual relationships). I suspect the list would be almost identical.