OUG,

If there is decoherence from multiple (infinite?) states in superposition, there is no/little need to to apply classical statistics to the likelihood of the first cell.It's assembly is unobserved until recognised by the environment. Herein, observation, it is posited, was not made until the 32 amino acid chain of the replicator decohered into the classical realm.Perhaps, a membrane (oil, convection bubbles)closeted the growing structure from the external environment. Classical evolution goes on its merry way afterwards.

think/why...is it SOOO-hard..
for science...WGHO..CLAIMS..to claim to know...
who..claim to have..all the answers..

to ADMIT THE TRUTH
they DONT/know...!

CLEARLY..it dont KNOW...nuthing..but spin

and dont have the answers
yet keeps on spinning/
pretending..they do

yet the ignorant/..in science../god knowledge
claim...FAITH in the science/religion..PEERS

WHY?

because they cant face/the FACT
of a god/good/living/loving..grace/mercy;god..that done it

its not rocket/science...evolution..clearly a THEORY..

we have a math/answer..rebutted by chemestry...lol
we have a physisicyst..[dorkins..]..espousing biology..in fact its current god-head

we have econo-mists..
telling us the global warming;real..lol..and-its/remedy..is a big new tax..for the money-changers/futures traiters..to buy/sell..at huge markups..after cornering..the mark-et

we have religious/pers..talking about/god..of wrath
oh-no..the sky is falling...
we wait..for jude-meant day..lol

we have deluded..imagry merchants..
hanging the dead corpse.of the HOLY-christ..drinking his BLOOD..eating his flesh...

and the decieved/believing
yet..its all-as delusional..as science of evolution..
that cant validate..its own claims..spin

we got believers...and decievers

yes we can respect..their difference..lol
but must also..

see THEIR SAMEness..their peer/based..MODUS_operandi..

[to wit peers/lording-it..over the peon's..]

ignorant/peons..yet enjoined heisrs..of good/god
..blinded/by the words..they/never read..
or the spin..thrown at them/from those..decieving/peers..up-on/high

fed to us..by a media..big/in..their own eyes
financed by govt-grant..via a two-party/system..

ran through grants/to sporting assosiations..
fed by yet more..succour...from the public purse..

paid on credit-cards..by the bleeding...drained working class/..
decieved by the spin/of the black coated..white collar..elite-peers

give-back to god..that which is..!..gods alone....!

math..rebutted by chemists..is that step too/far
how gullible..you think the people are?

yes ok..they are a pretty trusting../faithfull lot
BUT THAT YOU..THEY DO/DID..TO THE LEAST
you do/..did to him..[ie god..ie good]

and while/he..will certainly forgive them
those they abused..arnt so forgiving

strange that..those..who got
poor/empoverished..by/deception
ie..recieved..a wasted/decieved life..

and they spend eternity..paying back
those who thought..they know it all..
hanging..peers/by the ears..

and those/who thought..they could decieve..you all
but then found..every-thing has its cost..in eternity

those taking..the low-road..to live the high-life
soon learn karma..is a/b-itch..yet sincere repentance..is pure gold

Dear OUG,

Science does not claim to have all the answers. It is premise of science that hypotheses are tentative. Nor is it likely that science will ever have all the answers. The folks who mistakenly thought they has all the ansers were the Christian Churches before the Great Divergence (c.1760). Even to a modern theist, these guys didn't the difference between episte, losgo and mythos.

You didn't anser my question on Adam's blood grou?

So, let us try:

If the chances of the most simple life is 10 t0 40,000th power (one very mistaken Hoyle), then what are the chances of an entity as complex as God?

Dear Oliver,

I have been following this thread and admiring your patience in explanation. I had never heard of the Great Divergence before your post and am enjoying finding out about it.

I once gave a paper speculating on the reasons that China never had an industrial revolution even though it had developed many technical inovations centuries before the West.

Dear David,

Thanks. I am feel I am making no headway with OUG.

I think you will find studtying the Great Divergence an interesting endeavour, which also ties in with the History of Science, where the West tended to leave our societies behind by applying true science to technique.

The Chinese civilization is very interest too. As you may have discovered from your own research, the Chinese tended to grow their knowledge consistently throughout the dynasties, with in clination towards conventional orthodoxy in developing unification technologies. Reverence for the past tended mean the current crop of experiementers tried ti improve the precision of an existing technology, as I may said before. The Jesuits throught the Chinese backword because they didn't believe Ptolemy's celestial mechanics. From what I have read, the Chinese were more inclined towards arithematic mathematics than geometry. I suspect you have read Joseph Needham. The Chinese did not have any significant Dark Age and dealt feudalism ahead of the West. The West's Dark Age was introduced by the loss scholarship in Attic Greek during the Roman Empire and inflamed by the ignorance created by the Roman Catholic Church.

Thanks. I am feel I am making no headway with OUG.

Well! Like most, the human, which can not and how can they? This thread as gone as far as It can. But I love the thinking, and you humans need to re-think. Its not as easy as you think. Humans have come a long time as is, and I sit here wondering what you are going to do next.

And your not two rats in the same a box. lol.

Just wait!

Its only a matter of time.

TT