The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Religion and science: respecting the differences > Comments

Religion and science: respecting the differences : Comments

By Michael Zimmerman, published 31/5/2010

The teachings of most mainstream religions are consistent with evolution.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. ...
  8. 135
  9. 136
  10. 137
  11. All
DavidF, Buddhism, unfortunately, has been turned into a religion.

Religion involves belief in things that don't exist. Science looks for laws that explain what does exist. Simple really!
Posted by David G, Monday, 31 May 2010 10:42:43 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
These three reference provide a unique understanding of the now world dominant ideology of scientism, and how/why all of what is usually promoted as religion is psychically and Spiritually impoverished.

http://www.adidam.org/teaching/gnosticon/religion-scientism.aspx

http://www.dabase.org/nirvana.htm Chapter 1 The Purification of Doubt

http://www.beezone.com/AdiDa/ScientificProof/psychosisdoubt.html

Note the humorous title of the book in which the 3rd reference is taken.
Posted by Ho Hum, Monday, 31 May 2010 10:52:52 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I agree wholeheartedly with the author. I wish more people could see beyond their immediate prejudices and see that regardless of what axes people have to grind, this is the ONLY way forward.

If we pit science against religion, science will lose, so stop making it an adversarial contest.

Science has slowly been winning an ideas war of attrition for the last several decades with declining numbers of churchgoers among developed societies.
In recent times that this has changing, because fundamentalist religious groups have turned it from a slow contest of ideas to an all out direct war. They know that in this case, they have the advantage. Instead of allowing science to slowly make advancements, they're assaulting it directly.

This is a war that science will lose. We do need to respect other beliefs.
Forget your need to eliminate religion from the masses. Many people need it and it gives them comfort.
One would have to be quite selfish to steal that from them. Look forward to the only sensible outcome - religion and science co-existing peacefully, which also allows science to make further strides. It will never cathartically eliminate religion as some hope, but it will progress.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Monday, 31 May 2010 11:25:55 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
The Christian religion without Christ as Creator is simply made made garbage. The likes of the deluded Dawkins has enough sense to acknowledge this himself. Christians denying the obvious in the name of pseudo science of which evolution is do their Maker no favours Thankfully more and more people are demanding evidence of which the faith based evolutionist are still unable to produce. The main problem is not ignorant non scientist like myself but people who are trained scientist who have to deceitfully twist observations to embrace evolution dogma.
Posted by runner, Monday, 31 May 2010 11:28:04 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Re the origins of the entirely worldly power and control seeking "religion" called Christianity--the religion ABOUT Jesus, as distinct from the spirit-breathing Spiritual Way taught and demonstrated by Saint Jesus of Galilee--please check out this set of essays.

http://www.beezone.com/up/forgottenesotericismjesus.html
Posted by Ho Hum, Monday, 31 May 2010 11:42:44 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
David G, I would suggest that you re-read the article. I believe quite a bit is directed squarely at persons such as yourself.

You say that religion is the belief in things that do not exist, please prove that these things do not exist. Please do not mistake a lack of direct evidence for evidence of non-existence.

Think back to 1900, insidious diseases like syphilis and TB are killing people and of course there is no cure. A heart attack is always fatal. Cancer will always kill. The universe belonged to Newton. The steam liner is king of the ocean.

Now think of just 100 years later. Syphilis and TB are just minor diseases that can be treated with antibiotics. Heart attacks and cancer are not the death sentence they once were and are regularly survivable. The universe has passed from Newton to Einstein to a new breed of physicist. The airliner is king and there is talk of making space liners.

Never underestimate what will be learnt tomorrow. The director of the New York patent office once said 'The patent office should the shut down because everything has been invented', that was over a hundred years ago. All that can ever be said is that there is no proof yet, if there is no viable evidence against an argument. And let's be clear an argument against ID or creationism is not an agrument against god, an argument against what has been done in the 'name' of god is not an argument against god. So please prove that these thing do not exist.
Posted by Arthur N, Monday, 31 May 2010 11:49:45 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. ...
  8. 135
  9. 136
  10. 137
  11. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy