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Obama accelerates, Israel graduates, the West Bank separates : Comments

By David Singer, published 19/5/2010

Israel’s admission to the OECD comes at an important time as it steels itself to make further concessions to the Palestinian Authority.

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Just a correction regarding historical facts, I can't see why this should make any difference, but here's my 2-cents:

The Romans did not expel the Jews from Israel - only from the city of Jerusalem.

Most Jews stayed on their land and actually, modern research indicates that most of the current "Palestinians" are in fact ex-Jews who chose to convert to Islam in order to avoid the high tax imposed on non-muslims.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 20 May 2010 3:28:28 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu
that was a helpful additional chunk of information.. I suppose I was operating in "kill the head the body dies" mode re the Romans exiling the Jews. Yep..it was just "Jerusalem" in the main (at first)....but it did get worse for them... I'll cut and paste a wiki article which fleshes this out a bit.

It actually sounds much like David G's comments except now the bad guys /Romans are the Jews and not the Romans in David G's version of modern history.

ROME and the DESTRUCTION OF JEWISH STATE..THE FINAL OUTCOME

The complete destruction of Jerusalem, and the settlement of several Greek and Roman colonies in Judea indicated the express intention of the Roman government to prevent the political regeneration of the Jewish nation. Nevertheless, forty years later the Jews put forth efforts to recover their former freedom. With Israel exhausted, they strove to establish commonwealths on the ruins of Hellenism in Cyrene, Cyprus, Egypt, and Mesopotamia. These efforts, resolute but unwise, were suppressed by Trajan (115-117), and under Hadrian the same fate befell the attempt of the Jews of Israel to regain their independence (133-135). From this time on, in spite of unimportant movements under Antoninus, Marcus Aurelius, and Severus, the Jews of Palestine, reduced in numbers, destitute, and crushed, lost their preponderance in the Jewish world

FORKES.. I loved your most 'balanced' comment here :)

"What was it that the Jews did to deserve such treatment? "

"Unfortunately, in the case of Israel, their bad behaviour overwhelms the good." (aaah.. the sweet scent of impartial commentary :)

"For this is the Israel that, by its presence and arrogant behaviour, causes more trouble in the middle east than any other country;"

NOTE.
Your Balance (FORKES)is only exceeded by you being your arguments own worst enemy.
Cheers.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Thursday, 20 May 2010 5:13:18 AM
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Too bad, ALGOREisRICH, that you don't like my comments. I was just trying to make it clear that, unlike yourself, I am no apologist for the atrocious behaviour of modern Israel.
Posted by Forkes, Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:17:23 AM
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David singer,
What a load of nonsense we all know that is a political action instigated by the US.
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 20 May 2010 10:09:27 AM
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#stevenlmeyer

Thank you for your excellent contribution. It seems to have shocked the Israel-bashers into complete silence.

# examinator

As usual your claim cannot be tested with any empirical evidence.

Nevertheless accepting what you say at face value - I say good on America. Israel has much to offer the world and is prepared to share the benefits.

I doubt one could really say that about any of the 19 Arab States who continue to refuse to accept one Jewish state in just 0.001% of the
former Ottoman Empire territory captured by France and Great Britain.

Those who support this stance need to take another look at themselves and direct their vitriol and abuse to those who would prefer to see Israel and its achievements for mankind consigned to the dustbin of history.
Posted by david singer, Thursday, 20 May 2010 3:38:04 PM
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That anyone would claim that what Israeli Jews do is for mankind is laughable, almost deranged. Jews, as the superior, exalted, self-appointed Children of God, do everything purely for themselves, that and to make money.

You don't believe me? Ask the Palestinians especially the ones living in the ruins of Gaza. They'll give you a clear picture of what Jews are all about!

If you need more info. ask the Lebanese.
Posted by David G, Thursday, 20 May 2010 6:08:43 PM
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