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Misunderstanding the Family Law : Comments

By Barbara Biggs, published 4/2/2010

Despite the recommendations, A-G Robert McClelland has flagged that he is reluctant to change the shared parenting laws.

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ChazP:"I see you are once again talking through your wallet"

Actually, my kid's mother and I share all costs equally. We have done so for years. That didn't stop Centrelink from insisting that she lodge a child support case and it didn't stop years of bitter dispute with the CSA because I won't recognise that they have any role at all.

Tell me, how well do you reckon you'd go if the CSA took all your money from your bank account on Easter Thursday, when you have two children to feed and entertain over Easter, not to mention rent to be paid, etc? How do you reckon it helps the children?

My advice to you, if you're serious about the financial well-being of your children, is to get off your no-doubt overweight bum and get yourself a job, just like all the grown-ups have to. Days of Our Lives might just have to get on without you.
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 8 February 2010 7:09:52 AM
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ChazP, I like your' style! :)
I think you have summed up this debate in a nutshell.
You have even got 'Septic on the run!
He has again resorted to his usual petty insults about your personal attributes to drive his bitter point home.

'Septic, I don't usually comment on people's personal relationship issues on here, but seen as you brought it up, I will.
I have never been personally involved with Family Law disputes, although I have supported many friends through the process.

I was always under the impression that if parents agreed to their own, fair financial arrangements after a relationship breakdown, that the Courts did not need to get involved?

Why then did the Family Court see the need to pursue you for more maintenance? Surely someone needs to complain about some aspect of these arrangements before the courts get involved?
Posted by suzeonline, Monday, 8 February 2010 12:31:43 PM
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The 3 family law reports point to the need for proper assessment of the capacity of parents (male and female) to provide appropriate care for their children based on past practices, current capacities and the particular developmental and health needs of each child. The family law system has no credible process to properly assess children's needs and parental capacity, nor can it assess the level of risk posed to children from parents. For example, when there is an allegation of child sexual abuse,which has been substantiated by the state child protection service, the family report writer has no expertise or capacity or direction to assess the accused parent's propensity to offend. Their task is to recommend how child contact should occur, and they do. And children who have been substantiated as victims of child sex abuse spend court-ordered time with their offender because he is the bio father. That's a normal everyday family law outcome in Australia. Offenders love it - breed your own and you'll never be alone, courtesy of Australia's family law.
Posted by mog, Monday, 8 February 2010 1:41:30 PM
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Mog,

We can't have you trying to get the topic back to abuse and violence that effects children badly - why even ruins their lives, especially the grow your owns. That's the one part of the equation that 'the boys' here will not tolerate, you feminist you. You mustn't stick to the topic or the point. The Family Law must join them (as if it already hasn't) and stop women from leaving totally unsuitable human beings to pursue happiness, freedom and an absence of violence, and in particular to end any supposed female entitlement based on anything. It must understand that not only are all women evil, but having had children, the duty of the court is to save the children from female influence of any mothering kind because it is all bad. So begone with you and your racial ideas about what's best for children.

Not hard to see why relationships might have failed here. Those women with testosterone, and/or a backbone are the real enemy to these warped men
Posted by Cotter, Monday, 8 February 2010 4:40:41 PM
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COTTER : <it is the duty of the court to save children from female influence of any mothering kind because it is all bad>

How many babies and children have you ever had day to day care of Cotter: I mean actual hands on care. You don’t have a clue what it’s all about by the sound of it. I very much doubt from your e-mail that you would be capable of the sheer sacrifice involved in the care of very young children.

I’ve worked full on 50-55hour weeks in demanding outside jobs and I’ve also raised and help raise 6children counting my own children and grandchildren. They are all great kids.

Let me tell you, he 55hour job I worked, and it was a high stress demanding job was nowhere near the hours or stresses involved in looking after small children.
Dr. Phil bought in a couple of engineers to work out the hours worked by a mother with two young children in the home because her husband was always bitching that his job was harder. They found she put in 16hours a day.
They also gave him her job for the day and told him the only thing he had to get done beside caring for the children was to vacuum one bedroom; which he could not get done. He publicly apologized on TV to his wife and all the mothers of America
Posted by sharkfin, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:36:23 AM
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ANTISEPTIC: <Ho Hum more of the usual, <all men are bastards cos I have a uterus guff>

Why do women have a uterus Antiseptic? Because they were designed and programmed by nature (which is a lot smarter than you) to have and nuture children.
You have testicles as you say , although they may father children they do not give you the ability to carry and nuture them in your body or breast feed them. Men are biologically designed for providing and territorial defense, not childminding.

Why don’t men (gays excepted)apply for jobs in kindergardens and daycare centres,and why are there no male carers in centres right across this country? Because society INSTINCTIVELY knows they are not endowed with the same abilities as women when it comes to the care of young children,( not to say they can’t do it , it just doesn’t come naturally to them.) Society also knows that they are sexually more of a risk around young children.

Why have the Family Law Courts ignored the old wisdom that young children in most cases (again there will be exceptions) BELONG WITH THEIR MOTHER, UNTIL THEY ARE OF AN AGE WHERE THEY CAN RATIONALLY CHOOSE.
Any father who really cared for his kids would know that.

PART TIME PARENT : Most women would run a mile rather than wish to be involved in a rape trial.
Men don’t even have to reveal their past sexual misbehavior (like having committed previous rapes)in case it predijuces their trial. Talk about unequal justice. There are constant miscarriages of justice in these cases and mostly the injustice is against the woman not the man
Posted by sharkfin, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 1:32:50 AM
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