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If not now, when?

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The voice proposal is pure racism."

The tears of racists are especially delicious when society hates them
Posted by The voice of reason, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 5:28:52 PM
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Jacinta Nampijinpa Price says "she probably won't support a referendum on Indigenous Voice to Parliament."

"She said there were more pressing issues facing Indigenous communities."

What she failed to understand is that the most pressing issue is making the woke feel good about themselves. Whether it's good for the natives is secondary.

Meanwhile Minister for Indigenous Affairs Linda Burney advised that all the information about how the Voice will work will be released before the referendum. That's rather strange since WTF and Foxy have already told us that we only need to read all the reports out there to know how it'll all work. Perhaps Ms Burney needs to do some more reading. </sarc>
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 5:32:05 PM
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I watched Q and A last night on the ABC. It was
filmed at the Garma Festival and had an excellent panel.
The questions from the audience were very revealing
and insightful. It was truly inspiring. I learned a
great deal. It ended with a wonderful musical display.
It was uplifting and gave me hope.

The PM is on the right track. Definitely!
Most Australians are responding favourably.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 5:35:43 PM
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As for Jacinta Price?

Our Prime Minister urges Ms Price to assess Labor's
proposal in full.

He said - "I think with respect when Senator Price has a look
at what is proposed in terms of the wording then the idea
that this is anything other than a unifying moment for the
nation just doesn't stack up."

" I understand that there's enormous frustration there about
the gap that is there, but there's nothing in this that
delays any practical measures."

"What it simply says is that people should be given a voice.
This is a process that has gone through extensive
consultation with First Nations communities.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 5:43:56 PM
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Back to MP - Jacinta Nampijinpa Price's
argument against the Indigenous Voice to Parliament which she
claimed was being driven by "elites" who had been part of
the "gravy train."

Her comments evoked the old tropes of Indigenous Corporation
corruption and native title claims - both irrelevant to the
idea of a representative body.

What makes her comments really galling is the fact of the
sheer amount of groundwork that has been done by the Indigenous
people. The Indigenous
Voice to Parliament proposal comes out of the Uluru
Statement from the Heart process which included so many
Indigenous people drawn from local traditional owners,
Indigenous community-based organisations and Indigenous
leaders.

There followed a 2 year, two-stage Indigenous Voice
co-design process involving 9400 individuals, communities and
groups determined what this would look like in practice.

This is proof of a remarkably collaborative and deliberate
process to consider on how our First Nations peoples'
experiences and perspectives could be made a core part of
policy making.

Compare this process with Australia's party processes and
the political infrastructure - where membership numbers
have dwindled, local branches stacked, candidates are
parachuted into electorates where they don't live. Where
party powerbrokers defy the wishes of the rank and file
and handpick their own candidates.

All too often these party processes and the rest of this
political infrastructure built off these parties serve
the interests of the elite.

The Voice to Parliament is the remarkable culmination of
years of consensus building and grass roots consultation.
Before politicians try to cast it as "elitist" perhaps
they should look not only in the mirror but also at the
parties they support.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 7:07:09 PM
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mhaze and co,

Have you done the 'Dulux' test on Jacinta Price yet? Just in case she's one of those white fellas trying to pull that black wool over your eyes. According to you all Aboriginal activist are just white fellas in disguise. Odd that you're not questioning Price's aboriginal heritage. Why is that?
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 7:59:11 PM
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