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If not now, when?

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Are Albo's BLAXIT words below a dinkydi brain dump or blowing in the wind?

The Guardian Australia reports 2 August 2022 http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/indigenous-voice-to-parliament-how-will-the-constitution-change-and-what-will-australians-be-asked-to-vote-on

"...Prime minister Anthony Albanese has released the proposed draft change to the constitution to recognise Indigenous Australians with a voice to parliament.

But what will Australians be asked at a referendum, and what do we still need to know about a voice?

What is constitutional recognition?

...On [30 July 2022] Albanese spoke at the Garma festival, revealing the proposed question for a referendum to recognise Indigenous Australians and the proposed alteration to the constitution.

The “starting point” is to add three sentences:

1. There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

2. The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to parliament and the executive government on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.

3. The parliament shall, subject to this constitution, have power to make laws with respect to the composition, functions, powers and procedures of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

At the referendum, Australians would then be asked:

Do you support an alteration to the constitution that establishes an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice?"

MAVER'S COMMENT

After we sheep bleat "Yes" to Albo's BLAXIT Referendum the BLAXITEERS can alter "Starting Point" points 1. to 3. anyway they want.
Posted by Maverick, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 12:49:22 PM
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"After we sheep bleat "Yes" to Albo's BLAXIT Referendum the BLAXITEERS can alter "Starting Point" points 1. to 3. anyway they want."

Boomer tears are delicious!

Your racist blather does not matter. Too many of your generations are dead, too many kids are of voting age. You will lose.
Posted by The voice of reason, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 1:16:56 PM
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Voice totally without reason,

If you are blathering about me, and directing your schoolgirl insults towards me, I advise that I am not a 'boomer' which I surmise is your ignorant discription of baby boomers (a boomer is an old man kangaroo). I was born during WW2, which makes me a 'war baby'.

So, I even older and wiser than you think.

In my first - and last - response to your ignorant and childish rubbish, I would like to say that you are the most vile specimen ever to tarnish Online Opinion with your ranting and raving.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 1:37:10 PM
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"If you are blathering about me, and directing your schoolgirl insults towards me, I advise that I am not a 'boomer' which I surmise is your ignorant discription of baby boomers (a boomer is an old man kangaroo). I was born during WW2, which makes me a 'war baby'.

So, I even older and wiser than you think.

In my first - and last - response to your ignorant and childish rubbish, I would like to say that you are the most vile specimen ever to tarnish Online Opinion with your ranting and raving."

Jesus - y'all are still alive? I see where the issue is....

You are old and not wise. What you are, is an angry racist. You can't defend your hate, so you cry at me. I'm used to that. I am used to right wing scum crying, as their world collapses around them. I am fanning the flames
Posted by The voice of reason, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 1:40:42 PM
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I think that when people have a look at what is proposed
in terms of the wording - most people will see that
this is a unifying moment for the nation. What it simply
says is that First Nations people should be given a voice.
This has been a process that has gone through extensive
consultations with First Nations communities.

The proposed referendum question is simple and clear.

And the proposed wording of the 3 sentences to be added
to the constitution are also straight forward. Once
added they can't be changed.

Of course there will be different opinions on this subject.
Considering our nation's history that is to be expected.

But quite clearly this is what overwhelmingly a majority
of First Nations communities have come up with in
their Uluru Statement From the Heart.

And as our PM says, "It's one I believe that will have the
support of the Australian people. And it's one that can
be a great lifting up of our nation, a unifying moment,
which is what I want it to be."

The Voice to Parliament was a key element of the 2017
Uluru Statement From the Heart and called for an elected
Indigenous Advisory Body to the Federal Parliament. The
proposed body would advise the government on issues
affecting First Nations people.

cont'd ...
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 2:31:16 PM
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A couple more clarification:

The PM has taken the first steps towards a referendum
that would enshrine an Indigenous Voice to Parliament.

The Constitution can only be amended if a referendum
is successfully supported by the majority of
Australian voters and a majority in at least 4 states
and territories.

The Constitution currently does not even mention
Indigenous Australians. This proposed amendment would place
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders in the
Constitution and and show them respect by listening
to their voices.

Inserting this provision in the Constitution means a future
government cannot abolish it or let it fall into neglect.

This will put political pressure on both the government and
Indigenous people to make it work effectively.

The mere fact of having a referendum is important. It's
the definitive expression of the will of the Australian
people.

A successful referendum would amount to an important
message to Indigenous Australians and the world at large
how Indigenous Australians are respected and heard in
Australia.

As our Prime Minister summed up - yes we do run the risk
of failure but should we just give up? Should we run
the risk of failing to try?

This is a magnificent opportunity for our country to right
wrongs. Lets not run the risk of failing to try.
Hopefully most of us surely are bigger than that.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 2:51:42 PM
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