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If not now, when?

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VofR: "It's not 'racist' to create bodies designed to fight racism and give equality to marginalised groups."

Yep, agree with you there - it possible to have a government body that fights racism but is not itself racist.
For example, Today's police departments: they are not formed as racist bodies and yet they fight racism. For a case in point, take the scenario where a police officer (whether they are white/black/yellow whatever) arresting someone for spray-painting a racist message, such as Swastika with the words "Death to Jews" underneath, on a public wall. Here the arrest is a not racist act and the arrest itself is fighting against racism.

However, having an organization that only represents and advantages exclusively one section of society based on race and is constituted exclusively of people of that race IS racist! By the very definition of racism. But like I said before (and IsMise said in different words) whether you consider that a good or bad thing is purely a subjective issue.

By-the-way: the White Australia policy is associated with the Immigration Restriction Act 1901. This act had nothing to do with indigenous aboriginals of Australia but rather with immigrants from overseas. If, hypothetically, an act like this introduced in a future where the Voice existed and the voice made representations to parliament about this act then it would be acting beyond its statutory limits. Well, hopefully it would be acknowledged that it is acting beyond it limits- but we can't say for sure since they won't give us much detail about how it will work and what it can actually do.
Posted by thinkabit, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 10:55:21 AM
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"but we can't say for sure since they won't give us much detail about how it will work and what it can actually do."

Ignoring all your other nonsense.....

https://voice.niaa.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-01/indigenous-voice-codesign-process-interim-report-2020.pdf

Does Google just not work where you live?
Posted by The voice of reason, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 10:57:56 AM
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Good news.

Recent polling conducted by The Australian Institute shows
the nation is ready for a constitutionally enshrined Voice
to Parliament, with an increase of people surveyed saying
they would vote "Yes" at a referendum

Professor Megan Davis and Pat Anderson AO will be speaking
at a webinar alongside The Australian Institute and the
Sydney Peace Foundation today at 1.OO pm AEST.

History is Calling and as Pat Anderson stated - "It's been
calling for this referendum for years. The Voice will
improve the lives of not just First Peoples, but for
future generations and all Australians."
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 11:30:26 AM
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V of R,

When you post a link, delete the “s” from ‘https’ and the link will pop up red and be instantly available to others, it’s an OLO thing
Maybe your computer is a smart one like mine and it won’t let you post an incorrect url , then you got problems!!
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 1:01:29 PM
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Early daze Foxy. Its an early daze.

Albo's "First Nations" Incorporated activism has left we moderate-to-conservative Aussies in a DAZE.

Speeches in the Leftwing "Sydney Peace Foundation" are sure to alienate average Aussies.

Whatever the Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics suggest during Albo's Honeymood period...

This goody goodyness won't last as the true import of a racist change to the Constitution becomes understood, Before the Referendum
Posted by Maverick, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 1:15:35 PM
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The Indigenous Voice to Parliament proposal comes out
of the Uluru Statement From the Heart process which
included a ground-breaking process of First Nations
from Australia through 12 deliberate dialogues.
Joining each dialogue were a representative sample of
approximately 100 Indigenous people drawn from local
traditional owners, Indigenous community-based
organisations and Indigenous leaders.

These regional dialogues selected their own representatives
to attend the First Nations Constitutional Convention at
Uluru. At the Convention and by an overwhelming consensus
more than 200 delegates adopted the Uluru Statement.

From there as I stated earlier, a 2 year, two-stage Indigenous
Voice co-design process involving 9400 individuals, communities
and groups determined what this would look like in practice.

The very existence of the Voice is proof of a remarkably
collaborative and deliberate process to consider how this
First Nations Peoples' experiences and perspectives could
be made a core part of policy making.

When you compare this with what has gone on in our country's
political parties - it's no wonder that so many
Australians will support the Voice. It is time to do so.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 2:25:47 PM
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