Dear mhaze,

The only race grouping that presented a majority saying it was a partisan exercise as opposed to an independent inquiry were whites at 60%.

Blacks were 41%, Hispanics at 47% and Other just 37%.

Rather telling.

In fact white, suburban, male, baby boomers are by far the highest category of those calling this a partisan exercise.

How many of those boxes do you tick?

As to Cassidy Hutchinson the fact that 26 of Trump's secret service detail erased their txts is more than a little red flag.

As is Mark Meadows, the person who relayed the story to Hutchinson, is fighting tooth and nail to avoid testifying.

But you are avoiding addressing the question of whether you regard Trump loyalists like Mike Pence, Bill Barr, Pat Cipollone as never-Trumpers?

mhaze,

There's so much on the web that you can look into
if you are really interested in the facts as you claim you
are, - especially on the various testimonies given. The facts
are there. No matter how you may try to deny them. I
simply don't understand - why you're supporting the former
US President. When his actions speak so loudly for themselves.

The Ohio Capital Journal tells us that Donald Trump has
betrayed America. that He has proven himself as a traitor.
And that he did this not for a foreign influence or a
lucrative business deal - but that he betrayed America
for his own ego.

" He betrayed America because his clinical narcissism has not
allowed him to accept the factual reality that he lost the
2020 election. He broke his oath to preserve and defend the
Constitution and betrayed America and every American to serve
himself."

"The ham-fisted irony of it is that by doing so Donald Trump
has rendered himself the most notable loser in American
history. This will be his legacy. The rest of the horrifying
story will all be footnotes."

There's more at:

http://www.ohiocapitaljournal.com/2021/01/09/donald-trump-is-a-traitor/

And, as David F pointed out earlier - American traitors who support
fascism - people like the white supremacists, the Proud Boys,
the people that Trump finds "Special People,"
may continue to support him. We shall have to wait and see.

Dear Is Mise,

You claim: “Steele, Trump was never my mman(sic).”

The following quotes from you would beg to differ.

"Trump For President."
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 2:28:28 PM

"Trump will be re-elected."
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 7 October 2019 2:37:40 PM

"As I said last Presidential Election, Trump will win."
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 1 February 2020 7:04:07 PM

"Trump will be re-elected, nothing surer."
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:56:40 AM

And finally:

"Trump will not be impeached and you can bet on that."
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 9 January 2021 10:43:45 AM

Yet he was impeached, twice.

If you are going to jump off the bandwagon you really need to make a better fist of it and not get run over by the wheels.

Steele

And I was wrong on all counts, seems you were sucked in by flippancy.

Sr wrote: "The only race grouping that presented a majority..."

What race has got to do with it is unclear - except that SR doesn't like being shown that the Dems are losing the propaganda war and is scratching around trying to find a way to absolve his hurt. Pretty fun. Heh! but don't dare call SR racist.

SR, rather cryptically wrote: "But you are avoiding addressing the question of whether you regard Trump loyalists like Mike Pence, Bill Barr, Pat Cipollone as never-Trumpers?" It seems I'm avoiding a question that was never asked!

Clearly they aren't never-Trumpers. Equally they aren't insurrectionists. Equally they haven't suggested that J6 was an insurrection.

It's clear there is no evidence it was an attempted insurrection.
There is no evidence the people entered the Capitol building with the aim of forcibly overthrowing the government.
There is no evidence Trump wanted them to invade the Capitol buildings.
There is no evidence he wanted a violent overthrow of the government.
There is no case against Trump that would stand-up in an impartial court.

Foxy keeps telling me there's plenty on the WWW that supports the insurrection fable - and there is. After all this was the left's main chance to final slay the Trump beast. They failed - again. Trump remains the most popular politician in the country and controls the GOP. At this point, if he decides to run in 2024 he'll almost certainly get the nomination. The problem for Foxy is that she sees all this stuff that supports the J6 narrative because she only looks at her favoured progressive sites and therefore can't understand that most USians know this is a show trial.

A show trial?

Hardly:

http://brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2022/07/22/should-donald-trump-be-prosecuted/