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Jan 6th hearings and changing perspectives

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Dear Is Mise,

You claim: “Why hasn’t Trump been arrested, because the riots presided over by the Democrats were worse. Welcome”

Absolute rubbish. The Trump instigated riots were an attack on the very democracy which keeps America on some kind of even ground. If that had been stripped away then any sense of the republic standing for democracy, the rule of law, and respect for the will of the people would likely have been lost forever.

The hearings have restored in a small way my faith in American institutions and that enough people had enough regard for the process that they pushed back against a megalomaniac in Trump.

This should give most people a sense of relief and appreciation. Instead you are just pissed your man did not get up.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 28 July 2022 7:18:33 PM
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Steele,
Trump was never my mman.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 28 July 2022 8:37:34 PM
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Hi Issy,

Trump is big on guns, he has close ties to the NRA, in fact he is a member, just like the SSAA in Australia has close ties to the far right extremist NRA. Could we say you and Donald are brothers in arms?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 29 July 2022 11:25:43 AM
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SR asked (rather disingenuously) "Why is this all about the Democrats?"

The Democrats created this narrative that the riot was an attempted insurrection. They created the narrative that Trump was the mastermind behind the riot/insurrection. They created the notion that, therefore, Trump needed to be punished in some way for this supposed insurrection.

Now all that has fallen apart. Following the J6 hearings, it's clear there is no evidence it was an attempted insurrection, there is no evidence Trump wanted them to invade the Capitol buildings and there is no case against Trump that would stand-up in an impartial court.

The legacy and social media moguls might try to spin it otherwise, but it's clear that the American voter knows that this is all a partisan show trial and they aren't falling for it.

Consequently the entire episode is a disaster for the Democrats.

It's hardly surprising that those who fell hook, line and sinker for the pee tapes, the Steele dossier, the Russian collusion hoax, the claims that Trump was Putin's tool and the Ukraine corruption saga, would also fall for the insurrection hoax. But it just no longer flies with the American public who have seen this story before.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 29 July 2022 11:26:22 AM
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A couple of things:

The Democrats did not create this narrative.

Trump refused to commit to a "Peaceful Transition of Power."
He set about doing everything he could to stop Joe Biden
becoming the next US President. "We won the election, and
we won it by a landslide." "We will stop the steal."
"We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't
happen."

Former Trump aides have testified that there was no credible
evidence the 2020 election was rife with fraud.

Election officials in background states have testified about
Trump's attempts to influence them to swing the election
his way.

Others have testified how Trump pushed the Department of
Justice to intervene to investigate the election and
detailed how the former President pressured the then
Vice President Mike Pence to not certify the election result of
Joe Biden.
Trump clearly knew there were
people in that crowd who were ready and intended to be violent
and he certainly did nothing to discourage it.

As a matter of fact Trump incited rioters to attack the Capitol
with his rhetoric about a rigged election - " If you don't
fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."
"We-re going to the Capitol."

Former aide Cassidy Hutchinson said Trump encouraged
armed rioters to storm the Capitol and even lunged at the
steering wheel in his motorcade to get to the federal building
while the attack unfolded.

The Committee will release its findings in
September. It is being thorough.

The latest PBS NewsHour Poll shows that more than half of the
American population think that the former US President should face
criminal charges for his role in the deadly insurrection that
took place at the US Capitol on Jan. 6th. The new evidence
and testimonies have revealed how much Trump and members of
his administration knew about the potential for violence..

It does not bode well that the former President embraced his
armed supporters and his unwillingness to intervene when chaos
overwhelmed the Capitol.

The blame clearly rests with the former US President - no one else.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 29 July 2022 1:16:29 PM
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Would that be more than half of the now 20% & falling who still bother to watch the legacy media Foxy. That would make it about 10% of the population, & falling. Not much to base election hopes on.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 29 July 2022 1:29:29 PM
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