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Jan 6th hearings and changing perspectives

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I firmly believe that we couldn't get a Trump
elected in Australia. Most Australians are far too sensible.
Yes, we have our nutters, but thankfully they are a small
minority without much influence.

The Republicans need to lift their game - and pay attention
as to whom they will be supporting as their next candidate for US President.

It could well mean the end of their democracy.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 28 July 2022 1:46:57 AM
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Why hasn’t Trump been arrested, because the riots presided over by the Democrats were worse. Welcome
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 28 July 2022 8:58:23 AM
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The US will be our chief ally into the foreseeable future, no matter who they choose as their president, Republican or Democrat, peculiar or not. Their internal politics are none of our business.

Our business is to constantly scrutinise Anthony Albanese, and leave Americans to deal with their leaders and ex-leaders.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 28 July 2022 9:06:39 AM
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Is Mise,

Trump clearly knew there were people in that crowd who
were ready to and intended to be violent, and he
certainly did nothing to discourage that. He not only
did nothing to discourage it, he strongly hinted it should
happen with words like:

"If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have
a country anymore."

"We're going to the Capitol."

"We won the election, and we won it by a landslide."

"We will stop the steal."

"We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't
happen>'

And if you are so concerned about members of parliament
and their oaths of office - Trump's refusal
to commit to a "Peaceful Transition of Power," is an
avert violation of his oath to defend the Constitution.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 28 July 2022 10:27:12 AM
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I strongly disagree with the insistance that the US
will remain Australia's ally no matter who is the
US President. Should former US President run for office
again and win - Australia should be very concerned.
The man is unstable.

We've seen the former US President withdraw his country
from many significant international agreements since he
took the oath of office in Jan. 2017.
Not only that he also turned his back against his own
campaign pledges.

His decisions have triggered both domestic and international
concerns and some have even led to violent clashes.
For example his recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital
and moving the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem claimed
over 100 Palestinian lives and injured 11,000 more and also
angered several countries.

The move also violated the United Nations 1967 resolution which
asks Israel to vacate all the occupied territories of Palestine
and work towards building peace in the region.

Australia should be very concerned what's happening in the US
and who the next president will be.

Anyone but Trump.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 28 July 2022 10:50:09 AM
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It's a show trial that would make Comrade Vyshinsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Vyshinsky) wince with envy. Although it has been so ineptly managed that perhaps he'd laugh at the J6 committee's incompetence.

The trial shows:

1. the Democrats remained terrified at Trump's popularity and will do anything, including beclowning themselves, to try to dent that popularity. Unfortunately for them, Trump remains the most popular politician in the country.

2. Most USians are tired of the Democrat farce and cognoscente of the way the information has been presented - particularly about what has been hidden. As it turns out, more USians "believe that Trump was either not or only partially responsible for the rioters who overtook the Capitol" since the J6 farce trial began than before it started.

3. The never-Trump Republicans who signed up to be the Democrats dupes in the show trial, have committed political suicide. The Republican Party is now even more wedded to MAGA and America First than before the J6 committee started.

4. The power of the legacy media (and to a lesser extent social media) to control the narrative declines as more and more people become aware of their bias. Despite the attempts by the media and the Democrats (but I repat myself) to try to make Cassidy Hutchinson into a brave whistle-blower, that unravelled within 24 hrs because the majority are now aware of the antics of the spin-merchants.

5. The whole thing has been a disaster for the Democrats. They pinned their hopes for the mid-terms on finally getting Trump and, now that that's failed, they have nothing left.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 28 July 2022 11:24:30 AM
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