The Strange death of Europe by Douglas Murray can be applied to Australia also !

Dear mhaze,

You simpered: “What race has got to do with it is unclear ... Pretty fun. Heh! but don't dare call SR racist.”

You are a flog aren't you mate.

It was your very link which differentiated between sex, age and ethnicity at the top three in their matrix of results. But as soon as someone refers to it they are a racist?

How utterly idiotic.

If this is an issue for you don't post polls which highlight those distinctions. Full stop!

As to the term insurrection how on earth do you conclude there wasn't an insurrection on Jan 6th?

The definition is pretty straight forward: “An insurrection is “an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistance against civil authority or an established government.”” dictionary.com

January 6th was the day when the election was to be certified at the Capitol, the seat of government, and there was a violent act of revolt against this going ahead.

Trump organised a rally specifically on this date. Trump wanted to go with his followers to Capitol Hill saying in his speech: ““We’re going to the Capitol,” ... “We’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.” “

So yes there is clear evidence it was an insurrection.

There is clear evidence the people entered the Capitol building in an act of “revolt, rebellion, or resistance against civil authority or an established government.”

There is clear evidence that Trump's incendiary language about the “need to take back our country” would likely have incited followers to invade the Capitol buildings.

Following that there is clear, direct and self stated evidence he wanted them to revolt, rebel and resist the civil authority.

Finally you claim: “There is no case against Trump that would stand-up in an impartial court.” Of course there is but just as Trump pre-empted this election with claims it would be stolen months before it was ran you are now indicating he wouldn't get a fair trial.

Dear Steele,

I doubt if you're going to get through. Trump supporters are
beyond logic and reason. Presenting facts and evidence is
a waste of time - as I'm finding out.

Trump Derangement Syndrome? That's a cliche - an attempt at
gaslighting - "You're the one who's crazy." It's weak. Not much
of a weapon.

Anyway, Thanks for raising this topic for discussion.
I've learned a great deal from it.
I look forward to our next discussion.
Enjoy your week-end.

SR,

By your wide definition, every protest against the government could be called an insurrection. The protest outside the Capitol building was entirely legal, and the invasion of the Capitol building was illegal but there is no evidence that it was anything other than a spur-of-the-moment loss of control by some over-enthusiastic idiots.

The industrial-sized fishing expedition by congress has shown nothing more.

SM,

"nothing that will ensure a criminal conviction (of Dangerous Doctor Donald)". is this another kiss of legal death from you, like your claim that 'Cry Baby' Porter had nothing to worry about.

America is different to Australia, where here the likes of The Donald would be tared and feathered, then run out of town, where as in America he's likely to win the top job again.

Paul,

How about the Green Pedophile that you claimed hadn't been convicted? Or the child rapist Green that stood for Parliament, or the Homophobic green councillor that will face court for assault? Or your wrong call on Pell? What about cry baby bum bandit?

I challenge you to show me one tiny piece of evidence showing that he instructed his followers to storm the Capitol building otherwise you are just bullsh1ting again.

The reality is that while the democrats are trying to trash Trump they are only playing to those that hate him anyway.