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Murder In America

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PAUL1405 - I'm forever amazed at some of the detritus that pours forth from your mouth? Is it true they've dubbed you the village idiot down your way?

Have you any idea, the extent & nature of the various auditory processes the police & prison officers have scrutinising them in these times? If your cap's not on straight, you're on paper!

I'll give you one thing PAUL1405, you have a vivid imagination. Have you ever thought about writing some children's books? Probably best if you stick to mythology, folklore, and legend, rather than trying to engender authenticity, rationality, and fact. The 'Hanging Prison Officer'! You are, without doubt, so, so, amusing PAUL1405.

Oh I nearly forgot. You blathering on about my remarks concerning 'you' and the Vietnam War. Nothing specific really. Other than to highlight your character PAUL1405, and your exhaustive efforts, to avoid being called up, to do your National Service during that period, is all. So just relax, and later, return to your commune.
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 3:34:57 PM
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The Person/o sung wu,

It would be easy for "me" through the entity Paul1405 to retaliate with similar snide comments in relation to "you" the person with involvement in militarism, occupational employment, political opinions, or even your age. As you unleash personal derision and mockery on "me", it would be oh so easy to unleash upon "you" in retaliation, and yes I am tempted, and yes "you" by your disclosures of a personal nature would be a very easy target to lampoon. However as much as "you" would like "me" to, I'm not going to do that, as it serves no purpose to ridicule an entity such as yourself (o sung wu), who has no meaning to "me" the person, like all of "us" you are simply "here" as o sung wu and of no consequence as far as "me" the person is concerned. Every time I read the venomous comments of the entity o sung wu, I realise they are directed at the entity Paul1405 and are ineffectual against "me" the person. To make it simple, call it the 'Armadillo Principle'.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 6:03:37 PM
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Traditionally old men like Putin and others send young men off to fight, kill and die in wars. If young men refuse to go regardless of the consequences there will be no more wars. I regard those who have refused to go as heroic figures. One such man was an Austrian who paid with his life for his opposition. He was a brave man.

"Franz Jägerstätter, O.F.S. (also spelled Jaegerstaetter in English; born Franz Huber, 20 May 1907 – 9 August 1943) was an Austrian conscientious objector during World War II. Jägerstätter was sentenced to death and executed for his refusal to fight for Nazi Germany. He was later declared a martyr and beatified by the Catholic Church."

Read about him. I got the above info about him on the net. You can also. Many men go because they would be shamed if they didn't. Such was the cooee march that encouraged many young Australians to go and die in WW1.

https://cooeemarch1915.com/

I don't know the circumstances by which Paul1405 avoided service in Vietnam. He may be a heroic figure also.

If people refuse to go to war, wars will stop. It is that simple.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 8:32:13 PM
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PAUL1405...

An elderly Chinese gentleman now deceased, gave me the moniker after he watched me fight at South Sydney Juniors, many years ago. They used to hold regular fight nights there. And 'o sung wu' is Mandarin. And it's my understanding it means something 'warrior', or similar?

Clearly PAUL1405, I've upset you, for that I'm dreadfully sorry. And as I'm fearful of being lampooned by your acerbic wit and tongue. Therefore I think I should make a tactical withdrawal, lest you throw another hissy-fit and burst into tears, taking your keyboard home in a fit of real pique.

You know, PAUL1405, your tantrums will not be tolerated indefinitely. There'll come a time, when a responsible adult will come along, exhausted by your juvenile behaviour, lower your shorts, and smack your backside for you. After which send you into the naughty corner, without any tea. Until you learn to be more respectful to the other folk herein.
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 8:43:13 PM
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C'mon DAVID F.

Please sir, don't give me that baloney. We both know why he didn't register for National Service. Legitimate Consciences Objectors, register for N. S. and are invariably placed in a Corps and given a job that won't interfere with their beliefs.

Todays ADF is full of C.O, and they all do their duty. No sir, our boy is just a craven coward, and nothing less.
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 9:07:58 PM
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Dear o sung wu,

I respect you. You sound like a responsible man. I also respect Paul1405.

I hope both of you will respect each other. I was a soldier in WW2. It didn't end war. It didn't end hate.

One of the tragedies of war is that we will likely become like the enemy if we conquer them. I see the US bestriding the world triumphantly with a bloated military, avoiding being taken to task by the International Criminal Court after participating in War Crimes trials that judged the Nazis. If the Nazis had won it would have been horrible. However, defeating them by force of arms resulted in another horror.

I see no reasonable alternative but to provide Ukraine with weapons to fight off the Russian army.

Can we feel sorrow for those damaged by war whatever side they are on? Can we be kind to each other in online opinion?
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 9:12:59 PM
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