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Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 26 May 2022 8:06:08 PM
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Dear mhaze,
You ignorantly suggested the solution is to: "Arm the school staff." What an ill-informed little snipe which has depressingly become too familiar in this debate. The fact is the gunman made his way past not one, not two, but three armed officers who all saw him entering the school with weapons. "While all the details of the shooting are not yet clear, authorities’ accounts revealed that the gunman was confronted by multiple armed police officers — yet they were unable to stop him before he killed nearly two dozen people." http://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/texas-school-shooting-shows-why-arming-teachers-wouldn-t-have-n1295693 So are you now going to call for FOUR armed officers for every school in America and for them to be all equipped with AK47s? Dear Is Mise, Typical rubbish from you. These are the deaths of vulnerable primary school children you are trying to gloss over because of your utterly toxic weddedness to guns for all. But there is a point you are making probably without knowing, inequality plays quite a substantial role in how gun ownership impacts a country. When comparing the US with other countries with even deeper inequality US then yes the murder rates can be greater, but they aren't shooting up their primary schools to anywhere near the same extent. To Switzerland. They have the third of the gun ownership rates of the US but high equality measures. Their gun laws are in line with much of Europe and in a number of regards they are stronger than Australia's. However the sheer bulk of weapons in the public hands vs Australia has their gun related deaths per 100,000 standing at 3.01 vs our 1.04. Basically three bloody time ours. http://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country Go and find a better poster child because Switzerland certainly isn't it. Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 26 May 2022 10:57:01 PM
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Hi there STEELE...
I note you generally criticize the lawful use and possession of F/As, and that's fine, we're all entitled to our opinion and views. Given our current Statutes permit the lawful use, and possession, of a F/A What additional measures would you take, in an 'attempt' to reduce any further tragedies similar to that which has occurred in Texas? Thanks mate. Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 26 May 2022 11:27:00 PM
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Steele,
Just give us your insightful opinion on why gun deaths in the US are falling and the number of guns in civilian hands is rising. Could it be that more guns means more less crime? Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 27 May 2022 12:15:47 AM
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SteeleRedux,
There are countries in Europe where, once national Service has been served, a weapon is kept in the home for what I presume is the protecting & defence of the home & Nation. This would never work here for obvious reasons. Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 27 May 2022 6:10:18 AM
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The Texas governor Greg Abbott without any knowledge of the facts immediately claimed this was not a gun crime, but a mental health issue. In line with his political masters in the NRA Abbott when questioned about Texas's lax gun laws deflected to the old "nothing see here" attitude.
My greater concern is for Australia where gun nuts in several far right micro political parties such as the Shooters Party, One Nation, UAP and Liberal Democrats seek to white ant our robust gun laws. Some within these parties are in the financial pocket of the American NRA, that was demonstrated by Steve (Dicko) Dickson from One Nation. "Australia's pro-gun groups were also mimicking the NRA's political strategies in a "concerted and secretive" effort to undermine Australia's strict gun laws, according to the report by progressive think tank, The Australia Institute." The Shooters Party is well cashed up and there is every possibility they, and others, are indirectly financed by the powerful American gun lobby. The Shooters Party introduced so called "Get tough on criminals" legislation into the NSW parliament. That was a smoke screen, tied to that was their real objective, a relaxation of gun laws for so called "law abiding citizens". The criminal part would achieve nothing, whilst the citizen part would have seen loaded guns in the hands of school children. The Shooters refused to separate their legislation therefore the GREENS opposed it, on public safety grounds. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 27 May 2022 6:26:57 AM
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If your post was meant to be a joke then it is in extremely poor taste.
If it was meant as a serious comment then you have a problem.