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What is an Australian

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This nebulous idea of allegiance to Australia and its people is a nonsense. We are trying to identify what is Australia and who owns it? The aboriginals claim it is theirs and always will be with their wall paint and smoking ceremony. The British claimed as theirs in 1788 with their culture and the Australian Parliament made up of States claimed it in 1900 and since then Chinese communists have installed 250,000 residents, Islam claims everywhere they tread belongs to Allah. The others just submit and act as if they own a part of it.

With the current unconstitutinal pledge we have opened Australia to diverse loyalties, with many just giving mere assent to a nebulous concept.

To whom of these would you swear alleagence too?
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 15 January 2022 3:17:53 PM
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There are 2 versions of the Citizenship pledge.
One mentions God and the other does not.
Most people make the citizenship pledge at a
citizenship ceremony. Making the pledge is a
public commitment to Australia and her people.
But it's more than that. It means that by making
the pledge you accept the responsibility and
privileges of citizenship.

Here are what people commit to:

Pledge 1:

From this time forward under God
I pleadge my loyalty to Australia and its people
Whose democratic beliefs I share.
Whose rights and liberties I respect
And whose laws I will uphold and obey.

Pledge 2:

From this day forward
I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people
Whose democratic beliefs I share.
Whose rights and liberties I respect
And whose laws I will uphold and obey.

It can't be any clearer.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 15 January 2022 4:42:12 PM
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Josephus,

This is for you:

http://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/citizenship-subsite/files/australian-citizenship-ceremonies-code.pdf

It explains the importance of Australian Citizenship and
what the responsibilities and privileges are, amongst other
things. Again it may clarify things for you.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 15 January 2022 4:54:00 PM
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Foxy,
‘…and whose laws I will uphold and obey”
Does that include the Constitution?

You’re strangely. silent on the perjury by republican politicians who swear allegiance to the Queen.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 15 January 2022 6:55:44 PM
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Foxy, TO WHAT PEOPLE OF AUSTRALIA ARE YOU PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE?

If you are following the current NITV promption aboriginals want their own Government, self-determination, and laws, they claim, "this land always was their's and always will be" and their flag flies above every one of their buildings and has pride of place in many Councils
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 15 January 2022 7:52:05 PM
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You keep on telling us Australia is ONE Country - that is your blinkered view. Australia has become multiple nations by the very individual national cultures that is practised.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 15 January 2022 7:59:01 PM
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