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What is an Australian

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Is Mise,

Take note of the Citizenship pledges and
what people pledge in their citizenship
oath. It's clear to most of us.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 9:42:21 AM
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Citizen's including "Citizen's By Birth" have a duty to society. Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 10:34:11 AM
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Reciprocity is a common principle for human and animal relationships. Kudos Is Mise for standing up for your principles against the subversive woke bullies. In this case at least- you remind me of the noble guard dog in Plato's Republic.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 10:38:44 AM
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Indeed. Citizens have a duty to society and
responsibilities go hand in hand. That's why
the Citizenship Pledge is specific and it means
you are accepting the responsibilities and
privileges of citizenship.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 11:18:43 AM
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Dear Is Mise,

«Allegiance is to Australia, yes»

Yes, for those holding (or who held in the past) certain public offices and those who were not born here and received Australian citizenship from 1994 on.

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Dear Canem Malum,

«Citizen's including "Citizen's By Birth" have a duty to society.»

Same for non-citizens. One's duty to society has nothing to do with citizenship.

Anyway, who said that "society" must equal the Australian state?

Perhaps the best service to society involves working towards breaking this conglomerate into smaller, more reasonably-sized states where individuals, families and communities have more say over their way of life?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 11:20:51 AM
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Foxy,
The Citezenship pledges are to Australia and its laws.
The Constitution is part of that law.
Or do you think that citizens, old and new, are somehow exempt from the Constitution?

The Constitution that says that the Queen is part of the Parliament.

Or don’t you support the Constitution of our country?
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 12:28:13 PM
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