I never heard or read that the COVID vaccination is a cure !

Dear Aidan,

Thank You for your civility and rational comments.

Most of us know that vaccines do not completely
prevent us from getting illnesses - but they do
provide safeguards for us to be able to survive
the illness. Flu shots are just one example.
Why on earth would people not use this protection
to safeguard not only themselves but others around
them? I suspect that it is due to the misinformation
and falsities that are being banded around.

I know because initially I also fell for the misinformation
thinking that only Pfizer was good. But low and behold -
when I swallowed my fears and got two jabs of Seneca with
no side effects - I realised I had been foolish.

The urge to protect myself and my family and community
proved stronger than my fears and believing the misinformation.

cont'd ...

I shall be getting my booster shot as soon
as I am eligible.

Now back to the topic.

Sports Illustrated tells us that - France's sports
minister said on Friday that Novak Djokovic can
play in this year's French Open, even if he is not
vaccinated for COVID.

Apparently France does not prevent unvaccinated people
from entering the country. However, there are stricter
protocols compared to those for vaccinated individuals.

In the meantime, Novak has chosen to stay and sit in
Australian detention waiting for a hearing on his medical
exemption for the vaccination requirement for those
entering the country.

Novak traveled to Australia after Victorian state
authorities granted him a medical exemption to the country's
strict vaccination requirements. However upon
arrival Australian Border Force rejected Novak's
exemption as invalid and barred him from entering the
country.

A lawyer for the government previously said Novak should
not be deported before his hearing which is set for Monday.
Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews has said that the
tennis star " Is free to leave at any time that he chooses ...
and Border Force will actually facilitate that."

http://si.com/tennis/2022/01/07/novak-djokovic-allowed-french-open-france-sports-minister-australian-open-medical-exemption

For those who don't speak Foxy-ese, when she writes "I have no wish to continue this discussion with you" the translation is that she realises she is on the wrong side of the argument, has no counter-argument but can't bring herself to acknowledge it. She uses that phrase a lot.

'Your ignorance covers this forum like a blanket". For someone who claims that she wants to raise the level of civility in the forum, its strange that Foxy seems to be the first to reach for the ad hominem when challenged.





Aidan,

wrote" Being double vaccinated doesn't give you COMPLETE protection against catching covid, "

Which is why I didn't say it did, unlike others.

"but it reduces your chances of catching it."
There's no evidence for that, especially as regards the latest variant.

"And if double vaxxed people do catch it, they become contagious, but neither as highly contagious nor remaining contagious for as long as the unvaxxed."

The second part of that is true. The first isn't. With delta, the vaccinated seem to be contagious for a day or two less than the unvaccinated. There's no data for omicron. We were talking about people protecting their loved ones. Being contagious for 5 days rather than 7 doesn't make much difference, especially if the loved one is in the same household.

So again, the benefits of the vaccine to anyone other than the actually vaccinated, is at best minor. the chances of a vaccinated person passing it on to a family member in a five day period is essentially the same as an unvaccinated person passing on in a 7 day period. The rest is straw clutching as the totalitarians scramble to justify their desire to enforce the vaccine onto the reluctant.





Paul,

wrote: "I know a lot of these anti-vaxxers think by doing so they are being loyal to their mìssiah Dangerous Doctor Donald".

Most of the vaccine reluctant in the US are from Democrat voting regions.

mhaze,

Pointing out that bigotry is about being certain
of something you know nothing about is not an
ad hominem attack. It's simply stating a fact.
And it's obvious to most people that facts are
not your area of expertise.

After all you still believe and support Donald
Trump's fraudulent claim that he won the election. That
it was stolen from him.

Nothing more needs to be said.