Morrison probably thinks he's scored a political March kicking the anti-vaxxer Novak Djokovic out of the country for failing to get vaccinated. All's well, Novak can take his racket and go home. Given a wild card entry into Australia by as yet unidentified Vic government medical panel, seems on the health grounds that he plays great tennis. They didn't count on the ever vigilant ScoMo, no virus will ever get past ScoMo, no matter how small it is.

Lets look at the Omicron virus in Australia. Frankly it's out of control, every where except WA. Poly's like to give big shout outs these days so lets give one to Mark McGowan for keeping all those sandgroppers safe, well at least for this week.

How did we come to be in this out of control situation with Omicron, two words MORRISON/PEROTTET. Between the pair they have managed the biggest public health failure Australia has seen thus far with Covid.

Get vaxxed, get boosted, get the virus.

Hi Paul,

So who stuffed up?

Djokovic had a visa to get to Australia.
He clearly boarded an aircraft with Australian-issued
credentials. So who gave them to him?
He had a right to land here.

Someone's got some explaining to do - especially when
there are so many restrictions in place on the travel
of vaccinated Australians. Is sport exempt from the
restrictions? Please explain.

And what we now have is a tennis player being deported.
Not sure how this is going to help the thousands of
Aussies discovering they've been infected by the virus
or the many others who can't get tested. I don't think
that any of them are going to feel safer because
Novak Djokovic has been deported.

A cursory review of media on this matter indicates,
1- An incorrect visa was applied for.
2- Medical exemption was invalid.
3- ScoMo has been a beacon of consistency and integrity yet again.

Irrespective of what to believe, how was a Visa granted in the first place?
This smells like a duck, quacks like a duck, no valid visa duck

I read somewhere Djokovic has had & recovered from the virus. If so he is therefore less capable of carrying the virus & less likely to be able to infect anyone than any one double or triple vaccinated with any of the currently approved concoctions. In fact some research says he is as safe an those vaccinated in the old way for many bad diseases..

If anyone actually knows the facts on this please advise. My understanding is as above, in which case there is no reason for him, or other recovered from an infection to ever be vaccinated. This tends to support that the demand that everyone, including those recovered from the disease, to be vaccinated is for some reason with no connection with anyone's health.

Something is rotten somewhere!

How did he get a Visa to land in Australia without being vaccinated ? How do unvaccinated get onto a Plane bound for Australia on board ?
Is there serious money changing hands ?

A quick look at this seems to reveal his basis for his claimed exemption is that he has contracted Covid within the last 6 months.

That would make it twice.

I think fellow tennis player Nadal put it well.

“I went through the Covid, I have been vaccinated twice. If you do this, you don’t have any problem to play here. That’s the only clear thing,” he said in Melbourne after winning his first singles match on the ATP Tour since August.

“The only for me clear thing is if you are vaccinated, you can play in the Australian Open and everywhere, and the world in my opinion have been suffering enough to not follow the rules.

“He made his own decisions, and everybody is free to take their own decisions, but then there are some consequences,” he added of Djokovic.

“Of course I don’t like the situation that is happening. In some way I feel sorry for him.

“But at the same time, he knew the conditions since a lot of months ago, so he makes his own decision.

“The only thing that I can say is I believe in what the people who know about medicine says, and if those people say that we need to get vaccinated, we need to get the vaccine.”

Regardless of Tennis Australia and other parties, the right to enter Australia rests solely with the Department of Home Affairs and Australian Border Force.

When Djokovic initially applied for a Visa the Department of Home Affairs should have asked him about his vaccination status and any exemptions he might have been seeking.

If he refused to satisfactorily answer these questions, his visa application should have been refused, but it was granted.

Being granted that visa he would have been allowed to board a plane to Australia.
There are Australian Border Force officers at overseas airport who assist airline staff to decide who can board a plane to Australia.

Therefore the fault lies with Border Force officials who wrongly permitted him entry and Djokovic can argue in court there has been no change in his situation since the Visa was granted.

Meanwhile this ridiculous situation - granting him a visa, allowing him to land and then revoking the visa - plays well with the media and is a handy distraction from RATS and other mishandled COVID matters.

The fact is the political and health climate have changed. Before Xmas Morrison and his mate in NSW were demanding a "let it rip" policy of Covid Normal. They believed with high levels of vaccination all would be well, particularly business profits for Xmas. Well things haven't gone to plan with Omicron raging throughout the nation, except in WA. Morrison failed with RAT, failing with booster shots and child vaccination The Morrison Mob have done away with lockdowns and replaced them with a policy of lockups. Where is Morrison's Doughty modeling now, hidden in the bottom draw.

One of these days Paul just might post something that is not simply an attempt at straight political point scoring.

Why should I do that Hassy? Like your call for a DECENT far right political party, one you can support! No doubt one with a policy of nuclear annihilation which you have called for in the past on the Forum.

The only real attempt at political point scoring in this matter comes from Morrison himself.

Also,having one more allegedly unvaxxed tennis player wandering the streets is no more dangerous to the rest of us than the multitude of anti-vaxxers we already have out there, especially now they can remain anonymous to those who took precautions.

I'd like to stand in the middle of a "my body my choice" rally and light up a cigarette, just to see who complains.

Paul is right! Get vaccinated, get boosted and get the virus! The more the merrier as far as I am concerned. Take a look at Israel with now four jabs and thousands catching Covid as if that even mattered?
India using Invermectin is now well in front.
Both sides of politics need replacing and when replaced number one target has to be the utterly corrupt Main Stream Media.
Big Pharma is making billions and ensuring so many are getting a nice little drink along the way.
Irony is we are broke and this will precipitate a depression. Suggested to be the worst in 300 years so look out!

Most people turn to medical experts for their
medical problems and usually take the advice
given. I don't see any logical reason not to do
so in the case of this pandemic. I'd rather feel
safe than sorry. And I certainly don't want to be a
danger to those around me - be they family, or
members of the community in which I live.

Because this pandemic is such a virulent one, I
don't see what other choice we have. And people
with the "my body my choice" attitude are not
taking anybody else into consideration. Extremely
selfish to say the least. It may be your body
your choice but what about the choice of others
who don't want to be infected by you?
You don't live in a vacuum.

cont'd ...

The infected people in hospitals can
re-assure you that this has nothing to
do with making money for pharmaceutical companies.

Yes Foxy, but once that advice has proved totally faulty, the current form of vaccination, & the very thing they denigrate, Ivemectin, has proven totally successful, people start to realise that the medical profession is no more trustworthy than the used car sales man, & start to look elsewhere.

Despite all the hype, the assertion that Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are effective COVID treatments is persistently false and belongs in the sinister 5G and tracking microchip conspiracy bucket.

https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/success-of-ivermectin-in-preventing-covid-19-in-india-has-not-been-proven/?article_id=761091
https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/there-is-no-scientific-basis-for-claims-of-ivermectins-success-in-uttar-pradesh-india/
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/why-hcq-ivermectin-dropped-india-covid-treatment-protocol-1857306-2021-09-26
- just to mention a few articles.

Even common sense would suggest that if the manufacturers could claim such success they would immediately re-patent the drugs as a real treatment and make a lot of money.

Hi Foxy,

The wife and I have just finished our week in isolation, having been diagnosed with Covid on New Years Day. Thankfully we were both double vaxxed, so no serious symptoms at all, nothing more than a very mild cold. The forecast is that everyone will eventually get Covid so I hope like us they are double vaxxed.

Ps. Get out booster this Wednesday.

My husband and I intend to get our booster shots
as soon as we're eligible. We're taking no chances
on ourselves or putting others at risk. It's all
we can do - and we intend to do it.

cont'd ...

I have no sympathy for the Serbian tennis player.

He should be sent packing back to his own country.
Keep him out of ours.

Paul had to isolate having caught the dreaded Oh-my-God-icron. Why? Because, having caught the virus, he was contagious and therefore a danger to the community. (At least that's the claim).

So fully vaccinated but still potentially contagious.

Yet Foxy asserts that people need to be vaccinated so that they aren't "a danger to those around me".

But the vaccinated, as represented by Paul, remain a danger to those around him. Vaccinated or unvaccinated makes no difference. Why is that logic so hard for the sheeple to follow? Just do as you're told even if it makes no sense and then claim the virtue of 'following the science'. How about following the logic.

The protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that didn’t protect the protected in the first place.

There's every likelihood that being vaccinated is protective for the vaccinated against the the WuFlu. That is, it is good for the person vaccinated and makes no difference to everyone else. Therefore it ought to be a personal choice.

I suspect the 'follow the science' crowd won't understand that. That's because they aren't following the medical advice , they're following the propaganda.

"the assertion that Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are effective COVID treatments is persistently false "

There are any number of studies around the non-vaccine treatments for the dreaded WuFlu. Its not hard to find studies that find these treatments are ineffective or not conclusively effective.

On the other hand there are plenty of studies that find that Ivermecton and/or HCQ are effective. eg Mahmud et al... http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/results/NCT04523831?view=results).
And a meta-analysis of all such studies show more studies favouring Ivermectin than not.

So the best that can be said is that jury is out. But given that we know that both Ivermectin and HCQ are basically safe for human use and have been used for many years without significant adverse effects, why would the authorities actively try to ban and denigrate these options? They can be safely used and MIGHT be useful. Two reasons - there's more money in the vaccines for BigPharma and Trump advocated for them.

I note that the bizarre nonsense and carry on over some arrogant twerp who should be back in Serbia by now has brought the asylum seeker activists out from under their rocks, because the twerp has been detained among other illegal entrants. And of course, there is an uproar from the Serbian 'community', demonstrating that they will always be Serbian, never Australian, and who should bugger off back to Serbia with the twerp if they don't like our immigration rules. The Covid squawking is just an aside.

mhaze's comments should not be tossed lightly aside.
They should be hurled with great force.

The following link is worth a read:

http://ebm.bmj.com/content/early/2021/05/26/bmjebm-2021-111678

As is this one:

http://forbes.com/sites/debgordon/2021/09/15/ivermectin-doesnt-work-for-covid-19-but-online-reviews-spread-misinformation/?sh=e58aaa870e59

"They should be hurled with great force."

There's nothing like an intelligent, internally consistent and erudite take-down of a stated opinion.

And Foxy's tantrum was nothing like an intelligent, internally consistent and erudite take-down of a stated opinion.

But for some, when you can't argue the logic of an issue, when you can't even understand the logic of an issue, a tantrum is the next best thing.

mhaze,

I don't have tantrums.
I give them.

I merely present the facts - which are totally
beyond your comprehension.

Rache tell us more about this re-patenting of drugs? Sounds fascinating, how do they actually do that?

OK Foxy, let me walk you through the logic and see if you can follow it....

1. Paul is double vaccinated.
2. Paul caught covid.
3. Therefore being double vaccinated doesn't protect you against catching covid.
4. Having caught the dreaded virus, Paul was required to isolate.
5. The government mandated isolation was to stop Paul spreading the virus.
6. Therefore double vaccinated people who get the dreaded virus are capable of spreading the virus.
7 Therefore the double vaccinated are contagious just like the unvaccinated.
8 So being vaccinated doesn't protect others. Those others can still catch the dreaded virus from the vaccinated.
9. Therefore getting the vaccine doesn't protect others, it merely protects the person being vaccinated.

Now, Foxy I'm sure several of those steps went over your head. But please just tell us which of those steps you consider to be wrong. Otherwise accept that your original assertions that the vaccinated protect others is rubbish and mere regurgitation of propaganda.

mhaze I'll agree with your logic. The vaxx was a benefit to me. It protected me from getting a severe dose of Covid. If that is what vaccination can do then it's a positive for all to be vaxxed. If the unvaxxed mostly end up in ICU then that's a real problem. I now don't see the value in isolating.

BTW, my mate next door has Covid, and he didn't get it from me. Same as us, double vaxxed with very mild symptoms, but it's early days. His wife is neg at the moment, but give her a couple of days.

Hi Paul,

It looks like your COVID 19 - vaccine did its job.
It provided strong protection against serious
illness, hospitalization and death. It also made
it less likely that you passed the virus on to others
which means your decision to get vaccinated was a
good one.

________________________________________________________________

mhaze,

I have no wish to continue this discussion with you.
Your ignorance covers this forum like a blanket, and
there's scarcely a hole in it anywhere.

I don't have the time or the crayons to explain things
to you.

JBowyer

Drug Patents have a specific lifespan and when they expire the drugs can be manufactured and sold by others unless they are found to have a use other than that for which they were originally manufactured.

Here's a few examples of how existing drugs were later found to have a surprising side-effect and later repatented and remarketted under new names.

There was a drug used to treat high eye pressure and enhance eyelash growth that contained a compound that was found to treat baldness.
There was another used to treat arthritis that was found to be beneficial for treating heart disease.

This is because they contained specific ingredients that had unplanned results.

However the most popular was one originally used to dilate heart blood vessels and contained an ingredient called Sildenafil. This was rebranded and relaunched as Viagra.

(I suspect another benefit was it can be given to old men in nursing homes to stop them rolling out of bed at night ;)

If Ivermectin and Hyroxy were really as effective as some "claim" they would certainly be on the market by now with companies falling over each other to identify the active ingredient.

Also from above, the vaccinated can indeed still contract COVID but will have a lighter viral load and are thus less likely to pass it onto others.

Hi Foxy,

Agree 100%, if the only benefit is a milder dose of infection for the majority then vaccination is of extreme value. Avoiding serious illness, hospitalization and in many cases death is the name of the game. Those choosing not to be vaxxed are playing Russian roulette with their life. Omi virus seems to be a plus, in fact almost a good thing in being naturally less severe when combined with vaccination. The danger is X variant appears and it's extremely deadly, that we don't want.

I know a lot of these anti-vaxxers think by doing so they are being loyal to their mìssiah Dangerous Doctor Donald, but even DDD was not anti-vaxx, just crazy.

Those choosing not to be vaxxed are playing Russian roulette with their life.
Paul1405,
yes & impact on the lives of others. They should have to sign a declaration that they'll not clog the hospital system when they get COVID-19 !

Gee rache it's just as well all these vaccinated people are less likely to pass covid on to others, or those fully vaccinated flying in could bring a new strain, & we would then have an explosion of cases of the new strain passed on to others.

Well that's not working then is it?

mhaze,
Since Foxy is unwilling to continue, I'll explain:

Your logic is flawed because you have made an analog to digital conversion error.
Biology isn't boolean!
Being double vaccinated doesn't give you COMPLETE protection against catching covid, but it reduces your chances of catching it. And if double vaxxed people do catch it, they become contagious, but neither as highly contagious nor remaining contagious for as long as the unvaxxed.

Therefore getting the vaccine does protect others to a significant (albeit incomplete) extent.

I never heard or read that the COVID vaccination is a cure !

Dear Aidan,

Thank You for your civility and rational comments.

Most of us know that vaccines do not completely
prevent us from getting illnesses - but they do
provide safeguards for us to be able to survive
the illness. Flu shots are just one example.
Why on earth would people not use this protection
to safeguard not only themselves but others around
them? I suspect that it is due to the misinformation
and falsities that are being banded around.

I know because initially I also fell for the misinformation
thinking that only Pfizer was good. But low and behold -
when I swallowed my fears and got two jabs of Seneca with
no side effects - I realised I had been foolish.

The urge to protect myself and my family and community
proved stronger than my fears and believing the misinformation.

cont'd ...

I shall be getting my booster shot as soon
as I am eligible.

Now back to the topic.

Sports Illustrated tells us that - France's sports
minister said on Friday that Novak Djokovic can
play in this year's French Open, even if he is not
vaccinated for COVID.

Apparently France does not prevent unvaccinated people
from entering the country. However, there are stricter
protocols compared to those for vaccinated individuals.

In the meantime, Novak has chosen to stay and sit in
Australian detention waiting for a hearing on his medical
exemption for the vaccination requirement for those
entering the country.

Novak traveled to Australia after Victorian state
authorities granted him a medical exemption to the country's
strict vaccination requirements. However upon
arrival Australian Border Force rejected Novak's
exemption as invalid and barred him from entering the
country.

A lawyer for the government previously said Novak should
not be deported before his hearing which is set for Monday.
Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews has said that the
tennis star " Is free to leave at any time that he chooses ...
and Border Force will actually facilitate that."

http://si.com/tennis/2022/01/07/novak-djokovic-allowed-french-open-france-sports-minister-australian-open-medical-exemption

For those who don't speak Foxy-ese, when she writes "I have no wish to continue this discussion with you" the translation is that she realises she is on the wrong side of the argument, has no counter-argument but can't bring herself to acknowledge it. She uses that phrase a lot.

'Your ignorance covers this forum like a blanket". For someone who claims that she wants to raise the level of civility in the forum, its strange that Foxy seems to be the first to reach for the ad hominem when challenged.





Aidan,

wrote" Being double vaccinated doesn't give you COMPLETE protection against catching covid, "

Which is why I didn't say it did, unlike others.

"but it reduces your chances of catching it."
There's no evidence for that, especially as regards the latest variant.

"And if double vaxxed people do catch it, they become contagious, but neither as highly contagious nor remaining contagious for as long as the unvaxxed."

The second part of that is true. The first isn't. With delta, the vaccinated seem to be contagious for a day or two less than the unvaccinated. There's no data for omicron. We were talking about people protecting their loved ones. Being contagious for 5 days rather than 7 doesn't make much difference, especially if the loved one is in the same household.

So again, the benefits of the vaccine to anyone other than the actually vaccinated, is at best minor. the chances of a vaccinated person passing it on to a family member in a five day period is essentially the same as an unvaccinated person passing on in a 7 day period. The rest is straw clutching as the totalitarians scramble to justify their desire to enforce the vaccine onto the reluctant.





Paul,

wrote: "I know a lot of these anti-vaxxers think by doing so they are being loyal to their mìssiah Dangerous Doctor Donald".

Most of the vaccine reluctant in the US are from Democrat voting regions.

mhaze,

Pointing out that bigotry is about being certain
of something you know nothing about is not an
ad hominem attack. It's simply stating a fact.
And it's obvious to most people that facts are
not your area of expertise.

After all you still believe and support Donald
Trump's fraudulent claim that he won the election. That
it was stolen from him.

Nothing more needs to be said.

cont'd ...

mhaze,

BTW - I don't walk away because I realise that
I'm on the wrong side of the argument as you
claim. I walk away because I respect my own
opinions and I am wise enough to realize that
I can't change your unhealthy behaviour and
beliefs.

Anecdote aren’t data, but…..
My fully vaccinated daughter came down with the virus just before Christmas. Her son was diagnosed a day later. Her husband, who’d been away on business came down with it two days after returning home. Whether he was exposed for 5 days or 7 days made zero difference.

My GP daughter-in-law, vaccinated to the gills, got it from an a-symptomatic patient. Within 3 days my son, her husband, and three kids were all diagnosed with it. All were fine. The kids were a-symptomatic. All now out of isolation. 5 days, 7 days makes no difference.

"First time in history that the ineffectiveness of a medicine is based on those who didn't take it." Robert Malone who was one of the inventors of mRNA technology.

Rache,
"Also from above, the vaccinated can indeed still contract COVID but will have a lighter viral load and are thus less likely to pass it onto others."
I hear this a lot but have never seen anything proven and with the billions they have made in profits they should be able to do this surely?
My understanding is that the patents ran out, the Indians are huge manufacturers and the Indians have also vanquished Covid at a much lower cost? They make it, very cheaply and they are way in front of the game from us in the west. Our politicians and doctors fall over themselves to foist tests and vaccines that don't work on us? Any kick backs going on do you think? Drug Companies have previously proven to be totally corrupt of course so.....

mhaze,

So glad to hear that your family members were all
"fully vaccinated to the gills," and that they are
now fine. It looks like the vaccines did do their
job. It could have ended badly for all had they not
been vaccinated.

Foxy,

Yes. They chose to be vaccinated. We all chose to be vaccinated. But we had the choice to not get vaccinated. Everyone should have that choice. Only the authoritarians think there shouldn't be a choice.

Only the authoritarians think there shouldn't be a choice.
mhaze,
not quite, the virus stipulates that not the pollies !

individual,

Well said

We all have a choice as far as the vaccine is concerned.
However, we will have to take the consequences of our
decisions.

If you choose not to get vaccinated - then you
can't complain if there are consequences and
you are not allowed into certain places or be amongst
certain people.
As in the case of Novak - whose case is being heard today.
It will be interesting to see what decision is made
concerning him. Personally, I think he has a weak case.
But we shall see.

In any case I am glad that things worked out well for you
and your family mhaze.

Hi Foxy,

At least the tennis star is getting a speedy hearing, not like the poor refugees and asylum seekers, banged up in Morrison's fleabag of a hotel for the past 8 years. The poor folk are living with cockroaches and bed bugs in airless rooms, never seeing the light of day. Living on lousy meals of rice and paste bake, the food is better in our State run prisons. Morrison wants to lecture others about human rights, he should look at his own governments disgusting record.

Hi Paul,

Those asylum seekers are concerning.

I wonder how long they're going to be kept
in detention?

Perhaps that subject should be brought up before
the next election?

cont'd ...

Paul can you explain to me what's going on with
the Novak case. It seems that Novak has won -
the judge has overturned the cancelled visa
decision and Novak is to be released from detention.
But the Home Affairs Minister can still decide to
have Novak deported and banned from the country for
3 years. I don't understand any of this.

Hi Foxy,

The Omicron virus is making Morrison look the complete goose. Before Xmas Morrison and the clown in NSW were gung-ho about opening up, a real open door policy. Now with Omicron infecting hundreds of thousands and eventually millions of Australians, Morrison once again is trying to hide his cock-up. This guy has got to go.

Foxy,
The government itself issued Djokovic a Visa to enter Australia but there was a recent change in restriction that was not picked up at the issuing end. Meanwhile there was a lot of negative media attention happening about RAT test availability so Morrison played his popular "tough on borders" card, found a loophole and cancelled the original Visa. Unfortunately the judge disagreed and now they need to "save face" and at least make the threat of deportation, as if our International reputation wasn't already in tatters.

I'm no fan of tennis in general or Djokovic in particular but unless he is actually infected I don't think he represents a huge threat to the community. After all there are thousands of unvaxxed walking our streets now and since the hasty suspension of QR codes and mask restrictions (for quick political gain) things are getting out of control.

The attitude of some seems to be that it's a scam by Big Pharma or it's just to hard or impractical to do anything about it at all. It may as well be a scam by "Big QR" to promote their technology.

Meanwhile my daughter - a midwife at John Hunter Hospital - has been working double shifts and the A&E ward recently had a 35 hour waiting time. Today I heard of a trained nurse who gave birth on her bathroom floor and couldn't get an ambulance so while she gave her baby CPR her husband drove her to the hospital himself. but let's all get worked up about a tennis player and all will be well.

Surprise, surprise, one only relo in Melbourne has been hospitalised with the virus, and he is not vaxxed at all, a true anti-vaxxer. Others in the family down there also have Covid, but with being vaxxed they are only suffering mild symptoms.

Just to report on my next door neighbor, he's doing fine, we keep in touch by phone. He had a little bit more symptoms than us for 2 days temp, hot flushes, etc, said he's coming good now, his wife is still ok, but doesn't want to waste their last RAT on herself, she thinks she is neg.

Foxy, you'll like this one, the wife believes she has the cure for COVID, Vicks rub, hot fresh lemon and honey drink, plus double vaccination. Worked for her.

The government itself issued Djokovic a Visa to enter Australia
rache,
I doubt that very much, it would have been some incompetent Labor supporting bureaudroid who issued the Visa.

21 year old right-wing when it suits him, SkyNews's Caleb Bond, says Australia has been humiliated. Humiliated yes, but not in the way Bond, who sides with the Serb, thinks. We have been humiliated by our own piss week government for allowing a judge to take over our ìmmigration law. The Serb should have been put on a plane back to Serbia as soon as possible after his visa was cancelled by Border Force. As for the self-righteous, anti-Australian Serbs, remember Bosnia.

The Immigration Minister can still cancel the visa under Section 133(3) of the Migration Act. Let's see if he has what it takes to do just that.

ttbn, in what WEEK was the government PISSED? Me thinks Morrison is piss weak, but he's pissed most weeks.

Dear rache,

Thanks for sharing your information. I am very concerned
about our ambulance situation and the rising rate of
COVID. We're double vaxxed but I'm still nervous that
with my medical problems I'm stil susceptible to becoming
ill. However, there's nothing more that we can do. We'll
be getting our booster shots as soon as we can. It must have
been very concerning for the nurse who gave birth - hopefully
things turned out alright.

Dear Paul,

Your wife is one terrific lady. Give her my Best Wishes please.

I've just read that court documents reveal Djokovic
knew he was COVID-positive on December 16th, leading
people to ask WHY he would attend social functions -
especially with children and without a mask - knowing
he was at risk of spreading the virus.

His family members were asked about that matter at a
press conference in Belgrade overnight. They quickly
shut down the press conference.

I can't help wondering will public opinion still go in
his favour once all this becomes known?

BBC presenter Adil Ray said:

"Djokovic got COVID then apparently carried on as
normal hugging children. Unless his team can explain that,
he should NOT be allowed to play tennis in a country where
borders have been closed and families kept apart. He is
NOT an exception.

The final decision is now up to our government. Lets hope
they do the right thing by us all.

Take care Foxy, be reassured nearly all of the fully vaxxed are only suffering a mild infection, so things look good. We are up for boosters tomorrow.

Indy, how is the flood situation up your way. Are you safe? Keep well and keep dry.

What a joke you all are! Babbling on over a virus that is now a complete non-event. Ambulances are ramped up for the benefit of stupid lazy public servants nothing else.
Two questions :-
1. how can you think that a very successful and rich sportsman cares a jot what you losers are worrying, fretting and moaning about?
2. How many "Boosters" are you prepared to take? One a year, one a month or one a day lol!
You are beyond pathetic!

Thanks Paul. We had our second jab at the end
of October. I think we can have our boosters
after the end of January. I keep trying to get
through for an appointment - but the phone is
busy, busy, busy.

That whole circus is simply an insidious & callous tactic by the Left to discredit the Conservative Govt. of Australia.
I can't help thinking that the High Court Judge has either no integrity or has been threatened to rule as he did.
Will the previously deported players now be allowed to return & compete ?

individual (now there's a misnomer) wrote:
"not quite, the virus stipulates that [that there should be no choice as regards vaccines] not the pollies"

Oh so the virus is now a sentient being?

We can express our opinions and list
all the pros and cons but I'll tell you that I
can only make an opinion based on my own experiences.

I've been in hospital more times than
I can count - including spending one Christmas and
one New Year's there. It's something I do not want
to repeat. I am grateful for the care I received.
The hospital staff and ambulance paramedics were wonderful.
But of course I don't want a repeat of the experiences.
Hence my vaccinations.

Of course the choice is yours to make. To vax or not.
I wish you all well - and that you'll never have to
experience hospitalization or actually getting COVID.
The COVID hospital wards are not cheerful places to be
in.

Oh so the virus is now a sentient being?
mhaze,
I'm unsure if you're just playing silly or actually qualified silly !

It is understandable why Djokovic wants to
compete on January 30th for the men's final
of the Australian Open.

A win would give Djokovic his 21st slam title
and put him a notch beyond Roger Federer and
Rafael Nadal who both sit with him on 20 slams
right now - and well ahead of Pete Sampras (14)
Roy Emerson (12) Bjorn Borg and Rod Laver (11),
as well as any other names along the way.

Djokovic would become the only man to achieve
the feat and it would establish him as male
tennis's greatest of all time.

It's an achievement that hinges on the Australian
Government not deporting Djokovic from the country.

And it appears that the Immigration Minister is in
no rush to make his decision.

The Immigration Minister is "still considering" if he will kick out the Serb; at least that’s what he says. What he is actually doing - probably ordered to by our cynical, pragmatic PM - is waiting to see how public opinion pans out so close to an election. Anyone who thinks Scott Morrison has Australia’s best interests at heart is an idiot. He is interested only in Scott Morrison.

Djokovic is literally putting a gun against Morrisson's head with the blessing of Labor & other Lefties.
This is literally a situation of criminality ! Send him back to to his "Home" country Spain where he resides but if the Serbs don't mind they can still make them their hero !
Whichever, ship him out asap ! He's the biggest threat to Australia at the moment.

Immigration Minister Alex Hawke has used his personal
power to cancel Novak Djokovic's visa. This move has
thrown the world tennis No 1's quest for a 10th
Australian Open into turmoil with the tournament to
begin on Monday.

If he doesn't challenge the decision in the courts or is
unsuccessful in doing so he will be immediately deported
from the country.

Djokovic is to meet with government officials tomorrow.

Its so important for the ScumO mob to kick this bloke out. After all ScumO is ever vigilant not to allow even one case of Covid into Aussie! COVID shall never pass our borders whilst ScumO is on watch.

Hi Paul,

If I were Djokovic I would go home.

He could have been the no. 1 in Australia
had he been vaccinated. He chose not to be
and that's his right. But also his choice.
And with that choice come consequences.

Many Australian people don't want him to play.

Novak's mistake was that he bribed a Serbian official to change a covid test result from negative to positive. What he should have done was to bribe a Serbian official for a covid vaccination certificate. The Serbs love him so much that I'm sure that the Serbian PM would have signed it.

Hi Foxy,

The reality is that before Xmas the political climate was different, Morrison and other political leaders were gung-ho about opening up. Xmas was at hand, the cash registers were about to bring in the dosh. Vaccination had Covid licked, well just about, remember that Doughty Institute and their modelling? Where are they now, never mentioned, somewhere on the dark side of the Moon I suspect. What could go wrong? Giving No 1 tennis lad entry into Auuie was a rubber stamp job. Well unfortunately Omicron hit, and the government once again was caught with its pants down. No RAT's, no boosters not enough vaxxed, long testing lines, virus everywhere, people chucking a sicky, no loo paper, beer in short supply, what a disaster. MORRISON needed a diversion, and Serbie Boy was a gift horse, its all Serbie Boys fault.

If the Serbie PM don't shut up we shall declare war, and invade Kakastan with the OLO Regiment, in our bathtub, Hassy, Indy, ttbn, Issy, mhaze, PBJ, DD, SM, etc etc. All our finest military men, remember the regimental motto "NO CHICKS ALLOWED!" Indy did dodge National Service, but he can still get into the tub.

It's quite amusing to see Labor sitting on the fence being totally quiet on this.

Nah Indy,

Labor is sitting on the fence all right, but they're watching ScumO dance around shooting himself in the foot!

Yes, but how did he get the medical exemption? The medical exemption was a joke and Border Force were having none of it. That's when the Federal Court and Immigration Minister were involved. This mess would not have happened were the paperwork all valid. So the Victorian gov, Tennis Australia and Novak make a mess of things and it's all the pms fault? How does that work Paul?

At last check, visas were a Federal responsibility. Before Xmas Morrison was cock-a-hoop, the place was opening up for massive Xmas profits. The virus was on the run, re-election here I come. No way was No 1 boy not coming for Aussie Open, visa a rubber stamp job. I've posted before how things went pear shaped for Morrison with Omicron. Not enough vaxxed, mass outbreak, no RATs, no boosters, no children vaxxed, testing lines from here to Siberia. MORRISON fell in a hole. Now he is trying to dig himself out!

It is certainly a mess Paul. I am annoyed that a visa was granted on the basis of declarations which are probably false and would require the cooperation of foreign governments to verify. A big slap in the face to law abiding citizens.

Omicron has been a boot up the arse for Morrison, and for all the Premier's and CM's, except for MM in WA. The fact Omi is less virulent and the vaxx makes it less so is down to good luck not good management.

Novak Djokovic has lost his federal Court fight
to stay in Australia.

His application has been dismissed with costs.

The decision was unanimous between the three judges.

Great news Foxy and all your friends!
I just hope the Tournament is given to a more deserving country like North Korea or China.
Still the Arabs can always buy it.
I am also enjoying literally thousands of Covid cases under Sutton's Watch but when they occur in WA that will be the icing on the cake.
In primary school we were taught about the famous King Cnut who was advised by obsequious courtiers to order the tide not to flood. So much like the hated Andrews and McGowan the little sailor boy.

Hi JBowyer,

Don't be disheartened.

Good news for someone is always
bad news for someone else.

I'm sure that Tennis Australia will continue
to attract top players who are vaccinated.
Mr Djokovic made his choice, which is his
right. But with choice come consequences.

Pointless even having the Australian Open when the defending worlds #1 is refused entry.
Do you think the winner will really feel like they won without beating Djokovic?
The Australian Open's a joke now, and so is our country.
- Laughing Stock of the world -

I don't even care if he openly hates vaccines, and says so publicly whenever asked.
FYI EVERYONE, I HATE THEM TOO.
To deny him entry based on a personal opinion 'saying he might embolden anti-vax sentiment' shows our country is run by a freaking Gestapo
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
- And simply having one should not be considered a crime that requires action.
This whole things is stupid when they themselves decided COVID NORMAL !!
That they would LET THE VIRUS RUN ITS COURSE
Half the country's bloody infected anyway
What would it even matter at this point if he had Covid?

Novak Djokovic hasn't killed any Australians
- But we can't say the same for the filthy vaccines.

I haven't been tested once.
I haven't been sick once.
No PCR's, No RAT tests, No vaccines.
I haven't exploited government handouts.

What do you all think that I think of the mess everyone else has made?