For the dummies,

"Explain to me again how lockdowns are the most effective way to handle a virus."

As the title of this thread says; The Chalk & Cheese Responses to Delta Virus.

On the one hand we have the dithering Gladys response in Sydney with a half arsed very late 'lockdown', result; thousands infected, dozens dead and no end in sight.

On the other hand we have the Anastasia response in Brisbane with a quick short sharp 'lockdown', result, few infected, no one dead, and its all over in a week.

No need for lockdowns mhaze they don't achieve anything. Have another swig of the Dangerous Doctor Donalds eliexchloride or whatever, douse yourself in diso if you please.

"Attempted suicide rates among Victorian teenagers have skyrocketed by 184 per cent in the past six months."

"It is very clear that the pandemic is taking a toll on the lives of children and young people."

"In NSW alone, there was an increase of 40 per cent in duty of care interventions enacted by Kids Helpline, a service of Yourtown, in the six-month period. "

"The first national survey of domestic and family violence agencies and their clients has revealed fears of a "shadow pandemic" of violence during COVID-19 lockdowns were warranted.....Most [Domestic Violence] service providers saw a surge in demand"

"While cancer screening is integral to cancer control and prevention, due to the COVID-19 outbreak many screenings have either been canceled or postponed, leaving a vast number of patients without access to recommended health care services. This disruption to cancer screening services may have a significant impact on patients, health care practitioners, and health systems. "

Explain to me again how lockdown is the most effective way to handle a virus.

Thanks Armchair Critic- Yes the Biospace article sounds similar to what I heard but it came from a different source.

Perhaps one of these...

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/wuhan-lab-fauci-grants/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fact-check-did-dr-fauci-fund-research-that-created-covid-19/ar-BB1dxmhg

That the NIAID funded the project is not in question.

However, the WorldNetDaily article goes further than that, claiming that the grant covered "gain of function" research on a bat coronavirus, which "created" SARS-CoV-2.

Gain-of-function research is a controversial form of study that involves boosting the infectivity and lethality of a pathogen. Proponents of gain-of-function say it helps researchers spot potential threats to human health and allows them to figure out ways to tackle a new virus. Fauci has advocated for gain-of-function research in the past. In a 2011 article he co-wrote for the Washington Post, he promoted it as a means to study influenza viruses.

https://nypost.com/2021/05/25/fauci-admits-nih-funding-of-wuhan-lab-denies-gain-of-function/

https://nypost.com/2021/07/01/pentagon-gave-millions-to-ecohealth-alliance-for-wuhan-lab/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/steve-hilton-slams-fauci-amid-resurfaced-video-on-experiments/ar-AAKN0oz

https://nypost.com/2021/06/24/fauci-fought-trump-order-to-cancel-grant-linked-to-wuhan-lab/

Dear mhaze,

Struth mate, one would like to think that on a topic like this you might have done a little bit of home work.

I realise the report does ham it up trying to put the blow torch on Victoria and its lockdowns:

“The statewide lockdown was removed for regional Victoria seven days after it was announced on May 27, but the harsh restrictions remain in force for greater Melbourne.

The report also showed suicide attempt rates were slightly lower federally – they represented 38 per cent of 850-plus interventions, with child abuse accounting for 35 per cent – but was still an increase on the six months prior to the half-year to May 2021.”

But thankfully we do have the suicide statistics for the last 6 months in Victoria.

For total suicides for the 6 months from December 1st 2019 to May 31st 2020 it was 380. For the corresponding period this year it was 326. A nearly 14% decrease.

The year to date figure for children under 18 suiciding is 9 compared to last year's figure of 10.

So by your measure lockdowns have had a proven impact on substantially reducing the numbers of people taking their lives.

Well done, Steele.

I would have thought the reason for lockdowns would be bleeding obvious to the average person.
In a way they are the equivalent to the use of backburning to limit the spread of a bushfire but in this case it's about reducing the spread of infection.

Some claim that there is no need for lockdowns because we have comparatively fewer infections but it's really the reverse. The reason we have a lower infection rate is precisely because of the use of lockdowns and border closures.

There are now thousands of cases in NSW that started from one case some weeks ago and spread to other states by just a couple of travellers so imagine how fast it would travel through an active mobile population - look to India or Indonesia for a couple of examples.

Even the UK is undergoing a new wave since "freedom day" despite their higher vaccination rate.

It may not be the preferred option but it's the only workable one we have.