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Trump Caused Riot: Capitol Building

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Hi Banjo

A great link you've located http://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/trump-capitol-impeachment-25-amendment/index.html which states:

"By impeaching and removing Trump, even at this late stage of his term, the Senate could

subsequently vote to DISQUALIFY TRUMP FROM EVER HOLDING FEDERAL OFFICE AGAIN."

Disqualifying "Trump from ever holding federal office again" would (beneficially for all Americans) prevent Trump from running for President in 2024.
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 8 January 2021 1:18:06 PM
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Pete,

OR is he just trying to save his neck by throwing Trumpf under the proverbial bus ?

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 8 January 2021 1:19:13 PM
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AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT TRAVEL ADVICE AMENDED DUE TO: US POLITICAL CHAOS

In addition to the blanket ban on travelling overseas due to Covid-19:

http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations/americas/united-states-america

was amended yesterday:

"United States of America - Overall: Do not travel

Still current at: 08 January 2021

Updated:07 January 2021"

[HERE'S THE KICKER]

"Latest update: Due to violent protests in Washington DC, curfews are in place in the District of

Columbia and Commonwealth of Virginia from 6pm on Wednesday 6 January to 6am on Thurs 7 January 2021.

You should avoid areas where protests are occurring due to the ongoing potential for violence.

Follow the instructions of local authorities including curfews and stay at home orders (see 'Safety').

Monitor the media for information and updates.

"SAFETY

Civil unrest and political tension

Demonstrations and protests

The 2020 Presidential Election was held on 3 November 2020, with the presidential inauguration

scheduled to take place on 20 January 2021. Avoid areas where protests and demonstrations are

occurring. Monitor the media for information and updates and follow the advice of local authorities.

Protests and demonstrations are common.

Widespread protests and demonstrations have occurred across the country since 27 May 2020,

and continue in several US cities. Some protests have turned violent.

Avoid areas areas where protests are occurring due to the ongoing potential for unrest and violence:

monitor the media for information and updates

observe any movement restrictions or curfews set by local authorities
More information:

[see hyperlinks for]:

Demonstrations and civil unrest

DC Police Department"
________________________________

It is essential for potential travellers to view the ACTUAL WEBSITE at:

http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations/americas/united-states-america

due to constant updates on America's political chaos.
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 8 January 2021 1:26:36 PM
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Four years ago, a meeting was held in the Obama Whitehouse which launched the operation to try to overturn the 2016 election. Attendees - the Obamessiah, Biden, the FBI, DOJ, State etc. The premise of the operation was to try to develop claims that Russia had delivered the election to Trump. Even then, some of the attendees (eg Comey) knew the claims were false.

And so was launched a whole of government effort to annul the working class revolution against the globalist elites and their economic systems. A 2 year investigation into the Russian collusion claims yielded when no one was ever found to have colluded with the Russians in regards to the election. But the investigation was designed to discredit Trump, not find the truth.

In the meantime, the entire apparatus of the 4th estate was employed to discredit the nativist, America-first movement. Every accusation was treated as proof. Anything favourable to Trump and the movement was ignored or mispresented. Evidence of the elite colluding with China was actively and brazenly suppressed.

The apparatus of state was employed to defend the old order. Empires like the FBI and DOJ were just as threatened by the revolution as were the globalist elites. They fought harder than most to delay and defeat the new order. The FBI hid information favourable to the president even as the conspiracy sought to impeach him. Diplomats worked against their own government. Some in the military lied in order to disobey orders from the Commander-in-Chief.

Yet through it all the results kept coming. Wars were ended. New wars were avoided. Rampant adversaries were held in check and put in their place. The kids of the deplorables were no longer cannon fodder for the globalist ambitions of the old order. Tax arrangements were altered to the advantage of the lower classes and disadvantage of the elites who of course sought to undo the changes by misrepresented the facts on the matter. In November Biden was able to claim, in contravention of the facts, without being called out by the media, that the tax cuts favoured the rich.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 8 January 2021 2:01:12 PM
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It was a prime example of the fantasyland the nation had descended into that the Democrats could advocate the reversal of the cuts based on the false claim they favoured the rich when indeed the reversal would favour the rich. Little wonder the big donors were in lockstep with the Democrats – they wanted their tax burden reduced.

So as the election year rolled around, despite their best efforts, Trumpism was rampant. Then came the crisis unleashed from China and used by the left/media to vilify Trump. The states claimed full authority to administer the rsponse to virus, demanding the Feds stay away, while the media and that same state leadership hastened to blame Trump when things went awry. It was the perfect situation. Cuomo causes the deaths of 10000 nursing home patients due to his mal-administration yet the media and the Democrats blame Trump.

Yet even that was insufficient to dent Trump’s popularity among the deplorables. So the ultimate betrayal of democracy and all the USA had stood for was utilised to finally kill the beast. Election fraud on a grand, unprecedented scale. New illegal rules implemented. Mass mail out of ballots. Unsupervised acceptable of absentee votes. Pre-printed votes trucked by the thousands between states. Supposed hack-proof voting machines were easily hacked. Counties with said machines giving 5% more votes to Biden than comparable counties.

So in the end, Trump won the vote but lost the count.

The globalist elite, having now learned how to disregard the views or interests of what will become the serf class, will never allow a Trump to happen again. Media suppression of ‘unhelpful’ opinions will be ruthlessly enforced. Legal harassment of the enemy of the rulers via falsified evidence (viz Flynn) will become the norm. Massive numbers of illegal immigrants will be imported and rules stopping them voting the ‘right’ way will be reversed and/or ignored.

2016 was indeed the last free and fair election for the USA, for at least a generation. The deplorables cannot be exploited forever but when they again rise, it will be a very different country.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 8 January 2021 2:01:18 PM
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No one has raised the worry that as the management of the election
has been questioned as to just how much cheating was done, it is not
now possible to backtrack through the computer accumulation of the
votes to see if it was bad enough to change the result; and so a new
standard of management at a lower level is now set.

In other words if they got away with it this time why not do it again.
For both parties they may all believe they are as pure as can be, but
they are politicians so temptation now remains.
So if this is the new standard will our pollies think alike ?
We need some computerisation of our electrol system but keep away from
a system like the US's as it seems to be designed to make cheating easy.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 8 January 2021 2:22:40 PM
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