Since the Election Trump has claimed the Election was "Stolen".

A few hours ago:

"Protesters overpowered Capitol Police and stormed the building. "The president invited us here and we're not leaving,” another protester shouted."

See http://news.yahoo.com/trump-supporters-storm-congress-halting-electoral-vote-certification-debate-200312508.html

Does anyone support Trump now?

Dear plantagenet,

It will be interesting to see who accepts they were wrong in supporting Trump or will they continue to double down.

I put this to Josephus on another thread:

Dear Josephus,

Given what is happening at Capitol Hill at the moment do you feel in any way culpable as part of the malcontents propagating unsubstantiated tripe from groups like the Epoch Times?

As this former KGB operative put it ideological subversion/active measures have been deployed against America:

“to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA&ab_channel=PersianAtheist

Of course there has been deep interference by Russia enabled by Trump in the elections, but Trump himself deploys a number of similar techniques albeit less refined. His admiration of Putin has yielded to him a skill set which he has used to turn his standard bluff and bluster into a tool to twist public perception in order to deflect, inflame and incite.

His use of useful idiots in this endeavour has been quite something to see. His ability to take bog standard people and turn them into front line apologists and propagandists is remarkable.

America will need to do far more to secure itself and its institutions against another Trump and entities like the Russians.

Meanwhile I hope you give yourself a chance to reflect on your role in this.

Dear Pete,

So sad.

So very sad. Even Trump's Vice-President Pence, has
backed away from carrying out Trump's wishes.
What kind of a legacy will Trump leave behind?
What a shame.

Hi SteeleRedux

Yes it'll be also interesting to see what those other Trumpsters make of Trump Supporters' storming the Capitol Building.

As you have implied the very bright ex-KGB officer Putin, directing Russia Inc, has been cultivating Trump for years before and during Trump's Presidency.

Putin has appealed to Trump's base Motivations, which are Greater Fame and Fortune, in place of loyalty to America.

In respect of the latter Venal-Fortune, motivation see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization#Financing :

"in 2016. Trump's eldest son, Donald Jr., was quoted as saying at a 2008 New York real estate conference,

"In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets...We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

James Dodson, a golf magazine writer, said that during a 2014 golf game, he asked Trump's son Eric how the Organization was funding its golf resort acquisitions, to which Trump responded,

"Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia." Eric Trump later denied making the statement..."
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Hi Foxy

Yes Pence is patriotic and level headed compared to Trump. Pence will need to step in to handle the damage caused by Trump until Inauguration Day, which is Thursday 21 January our time.

After the 21st Trump has left Biden a bitter legacy including:

1. a polarised, radicalised, always gun-"happy", American society,

2. a damaged US economy, due to Trump's "Covid will disappear by Easter 2020" mistakes and

3. Covid Crisis Death Rates will spike higher due to the viral legacy of Trump's heartless Presidential handling of the Covid Crisis.

Trumpsters will blame Biden for 1, 2 and 3 not their Führer Trump.

Dear Pete,

21st January can't come soon enough.

I trust that one day - Trump will be merely added
to the ash heap of history and be just a distant memory
from which future generations can learn.

LIVE UPDATE
as at 11.50 Australian Eastern Time: http://news.yahoo.com/live-congress-counts-electoral-votes-georgia-senate-runoffs-trump-pence-134705945.html

• Violence and chaos quickly unfolded in Washington, D.C., Wednesday as hundreds of President Trump’s supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol [THE US CONGRESS "PARLIAMENT" BUILDING]

, forcing lockdowns as Congress was convening a joint session to count the certified Electoral College votes affirming Joe Biden’s election victory.

• Some breached hallways, offices and even the Senate chamber, forcing evacuations. Others broke windows to get inside.

• Capitol police were seen with guns drawn inside in an armed standoff near the door to the House floor.

• A woman [IDENTITY UNKNOWN] who appeared to have been shot was taken away from the scene by first responders. According to multiple reports, she later died.

• Mayor Muriel Bowser ordered a 6 p.m. ET citywide curfew, and the D.C. National Guard was activated.

• Members of Congress vowed to continue the joint session once the Capitol was cleared.

• TRUMP, who had spoken at a rally earlier in the day URGING DEMONSTRATORS TO SURROUND THE CAPITOL [BUILDING]

, was reportedly watching the mayhem unfold from the White House dining room.

• Vice President Mike Pence, who was presiding over the vote count, called on those who illegally entered the Capitol Building to leave immediately.

• President-elect Biden called on Trump to “step up” and condemn his supporters who breached the Capitol.

• Trump released a video telling demonstrators to “go home,” but repeated his false claims that the election was “stolen from us.”

• [one piece of good news :( ] Associated Press projected that [Democrat] Jon Ossoff will win his runoff in Georgia, beating incumbent GOP Sen. David Perdue and

GIVING DEMOCRATS POLITICAL CONTROL OF THE US SENATE.