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Closing the Gap 2020 Report

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the venom and antagonism against Indigenous graduates
Loudmouth2,
I'm deeply disappointed that it is interpreted as such. I don't know how much you know about what's happening but I can tell you that the idea of quota being preferred to merit has proven to not work.
I know of one (1) so-called indigenous (one parent is not) who has become a role model in the community he grew up in & is doing a better job than most fly-ins from the cities.
I know there are many such people but hardly any work for the betterment of their community !
I'm fine with 45 thousand graduates as long as at least 75% of them are pulling their weighjt instead of simply boosting the votes for Labor !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 13 February 2020 6:03:18 PM
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Joe, I have news for you, I worked for more than 10 years in AUSTRALIA'S BIGGEST ABORIGINAL COMMUNITY.....REDFERN, SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES. Now exactly what is your claim to fame on this subject? Flag making, honky web site, South Australia, even remote communities, in numbers they are small beer in relation to the urban Aboriginal population. You make all sorts of accusations about people, but never offer evidence to back them up. Banging on about the minority does not fix the problems for the majority. At times you come across as someone who is very bitter towards Aboriginal Australians. The hard right red necks I expect that from them, their mind set wont allow them to think any other way.

Like some here, I'm not trying to proportion blame to whitefella or blackfella, its time for positive constrictive action by all those of goodwill.

BTW; REDFERN is now a success story compared to the days when I was there.

Josephus; "The Aboriginal race must be bred out" take your crap and shove it where the sun don't shine. My wife as an indigenous person read that and called it disgusting. She said why don't you breed your self out. I told her you claimed to be a Christian, her reply "The blokes a Nazi, maybe a ill conceived Christian Nazi, but defiantly a Nazi."

Indy, not bad coming from a bloke swing off the taxpayer teat himself.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 13 February 2020 6:24:32 PM
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Paul,

Not sure what you are going on about. Actually, my father was born in Redfern, and my mum's dad died there. I think I lived there as a small kid before we moved up-market to St Peters and then Chullora.

And what has all that to do with Indigenous participation at universities ?

Currently, the equivalent of almost two Indigenous young-adult age-groups are enrolled at universities, overwhelmingly in mainstream, standard, degree-level and post-graduate courses. I'm all for that, even if you and Individual aren't. What graduates do is - like any graduates anywhere - up to them.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Thursday, 13 February 2020 7:00:01 PM
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Hi Joe,

Sorry it was an Indy comment I accidentally attributed to you. The bloke lives up a tree sucking off the taxpayer, has not the slightest knowledge or understanding of Aboriginal people. Judging by this forum I wouldn't want to live in a remote Aboriginal community, too many rednecks in the joint. The Indy's and Hassy's etc all claim to know from experience all about these remote communities. If I went on like these fellas do on this forum with my wife's people, they would string me up from the nearest tree. Anyway "back home" as they call it, I have too much respect for the people to put them down in that way. I see the problems of disadvantage there to. You said something about the "affinity with the land". I can't explain it, nor do I say all have it, my wife does, despite not living on tribal land for 40 odd years, I know exactly where she wants to be buried one day. High in the hills among her people.

You do prattle on about indigenous participation at university, all well and good, AND I AM ALL FOR THAT, UNLIKE WHAT YOU CLAIMED ABOUT ME. BUT you seem to think that one glowing achievement, which you refer to constantly, miraculously negates all the ills, infant mortality, unemployment, substandard housing, incarceration rates, etc etc all those things that if you do comment on, its only to be disparaging towards Aboriginal people, like two or three of the forum rednecks are. Why, did they reject you in some way? I hope they didn't
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 13 February 2020 7:51:10 PM
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Paul I’m curious as to what problems the “ Majority” have. No access to standard education? No access to standard health care? No access to the housing market?
If they have all that then they have exactly the same opportunities as everyone else in urban society, and are in fact, far better off than the Asians and Africans who arrive here with little English, little family contact, no money but big ambitions and a great work ethic.
The very fact that we now have Asian kids topping school classes and African kids working as far flung as up here in the Kimberley shows that even the most disadvantaged are forging ahead, closing their gaps rapidly.
Obviously you are missing something.
Posted by Big Nana, Thursday, 13 February 2020 7:52:28 PM
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My wife as an indigenous person read that and called it disgusting
Paul1405,
I seem to recall you telling us your wife was Maori ? I apologise if I'm remembering incorrectly !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 13 February 2020 8:02:56 PM
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