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Closing the Gap 2020 Report

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Hi Joe, totally agree, people, all people, should have the right to choose in this modern world of ours. Unfortunately to often choice is limited by circumstance. I am happy for Australia to be a multicultural society. In the past Aboriginal people were not free to choose,and you know that, they were dictated to by white controllers. All aspects of their lives were carefully orchestrated by these white masters. Some today prefer not to remember the past, it being to painful, or simply best forgotten. Where do you stand on these things Joe? I say we should not dwell in the past, and make ourselves unable to move on, but the past should not be dismissed, or forgotten, or revised, it should be totally truthful, no matter how unpalatable for some it may be. But we must keep in mind that the future lies ahead of us, and work for a better outcome for all. Would you not agree?
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 9:04:11 PM
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Paul,

You assert,

" .... In the past Aboriginal people were not free to choose,and you know that, they were dictated to by white controllers. All aspects of their lives were carefully orchestrated by these white masters. "

With one and two employees in the various States' Native Welfare or Aboriginal Affairs Departments, and often only a single staff member on many Missions, I'm not so sure about the careful orchestration of people's lives. i think people did whatever they damn well felt like and could do within very broad constraints, far more than the current Narrative would portray it.

Yes indeed, we all do need to be constantly seeking out the truth, looking for evidence, rather than seizing on any convenient yarn or gripe. And at least part of what might be seen as evidence is in those thousands of pages of written documents - UNLESS what they attest to can be contradicted by better evidence.

I've knocked around Indigenous affairs for long enough to have learnt to be circumspect, at least, about any assertion which is neither backed up by anything whatsoever or is too implausible to ring true. Indigenous people tend not to value evidence, believing that genuine evidence has been suppressed and anyway where would you begin to look, so they are subject to believing unproven assertions - a sort of self-reinforcing loop of disbelief and belief.

Actual documentation breaks that down somewhat: in SA at least, Aboriginal people WERE able to move wherever they liked, with free travel passes for legitimate business. They WERE provided not only with rations but with boats and guns. No Mission ever had a people-proof fence round it. Nobody in SA was ever 'rounded up' and 'herded onto a Mission'. People were provided with free education and health services decades, even a century, before that became common-place in SA.

That knowledge has to be built into our understanding of history. At least in SA.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Thursday, 20 February 2020 8:57:31 AM
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they were dictated to by white controllers.
Loudmouth2
And, before the white controllers they under the thumb of the tribe next door & vice versa !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:29:44 AM
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