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Bushfires and Climate Change

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Carol Sparks had this to say,

"Glen Innes mayor Carol Sparks: 'To deny climate change is, to me, very ill-informed.'
Carol Sparks, the mayor of Glen Innes Severn council, which had an absolute horror weekend dealing with the fires, spoke to ABC TV this morning about Michael McCormack’s interview, where he said he found it “galling” to have climate change raised as the cause of worsening fires:

Well, I probably couldn’t respond how I really feel on television but I think that Michael McCormack needs to read the science, and that is what I am going by, is the science.

It is not a political thing. It is a scientific fact that we are going through climate change.

Of course it’s not relevant at the moment when people’s houses are burning and you’ve lost lives, and you’ve lost friends, and you’ve lost family.

You don’t think, “Oh, this is climate change.” You think, “What am I going to do next and how will I save myself?”

But the overall thing is we are so dry in this country – we haven’t had rain for years in some places. All the dams and creeks and rivers are dry, and we need to look at what we’re going to do about that in the future. To deny climate change is, to me, a very ill-informed and uneducated way of looking at things."

Who's right, she or the Deputy PM?
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/nov/11/morrison-coalition-labor-bushfires-monday-politics-live?page=with:block-5dc8827b8f08c2d1f80dd528#block-5dc8827b8f08c2d1f80dd528
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 11 November 2019 2:01:27 PM
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Well I see the Marxist Greens who believe in scaremongering the population blame the Governments for the fires as though they are the polluters. They had to get in first with the blame. The Federal Government do not control where people build, and if they keep their surrounding environment safe.

I have lived in the bush on the north Coast NSW and seen crowning fires 100 meters from our home; also through many devastating fires on the Blue Mountains in NSW. Fires are a part of Australia that happen every year, that this year is especially dry means they have started earlier in the season.

Lashing out in anger by the Mayor is merely venting her feelings, not identifying any science. The Glen Innis fires were deliberately lit, it was not the climate that lit the fires.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 7:41:06 AM
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Who's right? Well, there are obviously two sides with different opinions on that. The people who say 'believe the science', but who mean only the science that fits their ignorant superstitions - they totally ignore the scientists who have opposing views and are given little publicity by the corrupt media. They are the 'mob think' group, typified by this hick country mayor. They allow other people to do their thinking for them, and are generally Left-leaning disruptors, who rely on the mainstream media for their information.

The other side are thinkers who sift through the hysteria and make up their own minds. Their memories of bushfires and weather in the past are superior to those of the goldfish above. They realise that there are more political activists than actual scientists squawking gloom, doom and downright bullshite.

There will never be agreement until there are no longer billions of dollars available for politicians (who mainly belong to the first group) to throw around, and the West has been dragged back to the wretched, poor pre-industrial stage.

The culprits responsible for the man-made climate change lies and scare-mongering will not receive the justice they deserve.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 8:11:08 AM
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There are no bushfires just as there is no climate
change. It's all a communist plot - added to and fabricated
by the media and the Greens. It's a world-wide
lie perpetuated by false science and false news.
The images that you see
on TV of burning fires are computer-generated or sourced
from previous news in past years. Things are not getting
worse - and the fire-fighters who tell you that they are -
are all liars and probably anti-government agents.

So lets'all carry-on - business as usual. After all there
are many more planets to inhabit - we don't just have to
settle for this one.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 9:32:00 AM
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Dear Foxy,

Is it true that national parks authorities in NSW (and maybe Qld ?) have cut back on autumn-winter cool burns, back-burns, removal of timber, etc., to reduce the fuel load in national parks ?

If so, we don't have to posit climate change, although that wouldn't have helped. Just common or garden bureaucratic incompetence.

Love,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 9:36:41 AM
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The increasing loss of housing and lives in bushfires was always going to happen because we have an increasing population living in bush land and unable to clear their land of trees due to council regulations.
50/60 years ago millions of acres of land getting burnt was normal but we didn’t hear about it because there wasn’t even any tv in this country, let alone internet. We had to rely on the radio and newspaper for information, so most people were unaware of the extent of bushfire damage.
Today, every happening, however minor, is instantly transported into homes via the internet, which makes people hypersensitive to issues once considered normal.
Posted by Big Nana, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 10:06:17 AM
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