Paul,

Hard to find a reference is it?

Issy, are the facts about the gun nutters influencing Australian politicians to water down our moderate gun laws not enough for you, you want more!

Gun nutters at work; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2SQY0kR2V0

Issy, watch the YouTube to get the facts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2SQY0kR2V0

Paul,

Desperation?

No references, surely if the situations that you claim exist there must be one reference.

Issy, do you help train the mentally ill in the use of firearms as is the law in NSW these days, all thanks to political white-anting by the Shooters and Hooters party, of which you said you were a founding member.

Steele,

Just to remind you,

"What a completely ludicrous statement, even from the likes of you.

As much as you would like to fantasise about it targets on a range do not shoot back, nor do they through their behaviour give clues to future actions, nor are they to be reasoned with.

Why are you even going there?"

What a completely fatuous post, even from the likes of you.

All armed services start out shooting at targets and they do so to develop accuracy, shooting without accuracy is generally futile and in the case of police can be disastrous.

If a soldier misses and shoots a bystander that bystander is, 99% of the time an enemy so it's a plus.

If a policeman misses a criminal then the bystander 99.99% of the time will be an innocent citizen, hence the need for plenty of training in accurate pistol shooting for police.

Training for accuracy costs money, so most police forces in this country don't bother; what's a bit of collateral damage nows and then.