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Mass Shootings In America, A Reminder To Australia.

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Once again mass shootings in the US; A mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, on Saturday, has left at least 20 people dead and 26 injured appears to be the deadliest shooting in the United States this year. The El Paso murders were closely followed by Nine people killed and at least 16 injured in a shooting on Sunday in Dayton, Ohio.

These horrible murders should again remind Australia of the terrible consequences that lax gun laws entail. Unfortunately we still have those among us, the gun lobby, who continually pressure politicians to go down the American path, so we too can once again experience the tragedy of mass murder. Lets keep these people out of politics so it can't happen here.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 4 August 2019 7:46:01 PM
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Paul,

You're at it again.

"Unfortunately we still have those among us, the gun lobby, who continually pressure politicians to go down the American path..."

Can you give a reference, please?

Or an instance or two?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 4 August 2019 8:29:55 PM
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Issy wants to know; who are the big players in the Australian gun lobby, happy to oblige, lets tell him. Number one is brothers in arms, the Australian equivalent of the powerful US pro gun, and politically influential National Rifle Association, the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia (SSAA) which has almost as many members, per capita, as the American monster organisation. The SSAA has an estimated combined income of $18 million per year. The other big pro gun player in Australia is the Shooting Industry Foundation of Australia. SIFA is the peak body for the firearms industry. One of the SIFA directors is Robert Nioa, Queensland firearms wholesaler and son-in-law of Bob Katter, leader of the far right Australian Party. SIFA received $1.2 million from its corporate members between 2014 and late 2018 to promote their interests. Between 2011 and 2018, Katter's Australian Party received $808,000, most of which came from SIFA and the Queensland branch of the SSAA. Others to receive cash donations from the pro gun lobby were The Shooters Party almost $700,000, The Liberal Party received $46,000 in donations, from SIFA and defence contractor Thales. The Liberal Democrats got $37,000 from Mr Nioa and the SSAA, while the Nationals, the ALP and Country Alliance all received between $30,000 and $40,000. One Nation, only got $6,200. As you can see, the pro gun money is pouring in to some of the far right parties in particular.

The SIFA is only a moderate direct donor to extremists political parties. However it spends big on it own political campaigns. It spent $750,000 on two recent state election campaigns alone, the "Flick 'Em" campaign during the 2017 Queensland election and the "Not Happy Dan" campaign during the 2018 Victorian state election.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 4 August 2019 10:18:38 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/us-in-the-midst-of-a-white-nationalist-terrorism-crisis-20190804-p52do1.html
Ise mise, Paul thrives on questioning the truth however yes the gun lobby in America is an illness
The use of a constitution written so long ago, to say everyone has a right to own a gun is insanity
Posted by Belly, Monday, 5 August 2019 7:15:35 AM
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And Switzerland where every man has to keep a rifle at home is not.

I prefer the Swiss system.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 5 August 2019 9:45:57 AM
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So, mass shootings are a reminder to Australia, are they? A reminder of what? That we have extremely draconian gun laws already? That we have never had a 'gun culture'. That we have had only one mass shooting, which resulted in the virtual criminalisation of hobby shooters? That the few gun crimes that occur in Australia are committed by people who don't care about draconian laws? Laws work only for law-abiding citizens, and Australians in general are very law-abiding, to the point of meekness. All this should satisfy a totalitarian Green, and save him from constantly nagging and rubbishing his fellow citizens.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 5 August 2019 10:04:12 AM
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