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Folau and GoFundMe

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Steele,

"Don't you think a religion which prized celibacy over normal relations had anything to do with it?"

No, if Religious were inclined to transgress there was/is plenty of opportunity for heterosexual relationships, the 'priests wife' was/is a respected member of many Catholic communities, and I write with personal knowledge of such relationships in Australia, England, and Ireland.

There are, however, various studies of celibacy which see it as a cause/contributory factor in paedophilia by celibate Religious and studies that refute any connection.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 10:46:26 AM
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Is Mise,

You need to do a bit more research
on the differences between the two terms and
their meanings.

SM,

A question for you.

Why is it that as a general rule - there's only one
group - that of faith groups, who claim the right
to dismiss people from employment because of their
religious beliefs (or lack of)? And yet they seek
not to be dismissed from employment for their own
beliefs. They don't give the same courtesy to others
yet they expect it for themselves.

For example, a number of religious organisations have
argued that their schools should be allowed to deny
employment to otherwise competent people who do not
practice their religion. It follows from this that
employees who renounce their faith of the school would
be open to dismissal.

Should therefore all employers be allowed to discriminate
against people based on their religious beliefs or lack
of?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 10:54:19 AM
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A lefty reader has written to The Age asking how they, on the left, can justify "curbing the free speech of Israel Folau. He actually says it exposes them, the Left, as hypocrites! He also questions what the Left thinks it's doing "backing the right of a corporation to tell someone what he can or cannot say in public on a topic unrelated to his job".

Good on you Steven Conte of Warrnambool. Perhaps you are on the wrong side of politics? All due respect to you anyway.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 11:25:25 AM
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Foxy,

"You need to do a bit more research
on the differences between the two terms and
their meanings"

Ok, a homosexual is one who is attracted to persons of the same sex.
A paedophile is a person who engages in a sexual act or attempts to so do with prepubescent children.

Why do you think that a person who sexually molests children of the same sex is not a homosexual paedophile?

I think that the definition fits well, but please enlighten me.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 12:40:31 PM
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Foxy,

Once again you have got it wrong. Faith based schools while preferring to hire those with similar views often hire people with different faiths and of various sexual preferences, but with the clear understanding that they are working that they don't behave in a manner or espouse views diametrically different to the faith of the organisation. I am not aware of any social media restrictions.

With both my kids going to church schools in which there were several openly gay teachers who were hired and performed their jobs well and were never in any danger of dismissal. I am also not aware of any teacher being fired for sexual or religious reasons in Australia's history.

That was a bad example to chose.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 12:44:20 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

You write;

"I am also not aware of any teacher being fired for sexual or religious reasons in Australia's history."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-12/gay-teacher-attacks-push-for-religious-school-discrimination/10365816

Now you are.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 1:21:02 PM
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