Dear Shadow Minister,

“Which is exactly what Folau was saying.”

No he wasn't, he said they were going to hell. Not just that they couldn't enter the Kingdom of God. Remember John also explicitly says the only way to the kingdom was through Jesus Christ. All the Buddhists, Jews, and Roman believers in other Gods couldn't either. So why doesn't Falou pick on them?

We gave the English court case a good thrashing over so I don't think there is much to be gained by doing so again. However you yet again fail to realise qualification of  “does not necessarily connote”.

And this little delight from you;

“There are plenty of other translations which say the same thing using different language, whereas your "quote" from John 8:44 is fabricated and nowhere near close to the meaning intended.”

Well mate there are plenty of other quotes regarding the Jews which also are highly derogatory, some of which I also supplied. And why are you still prattling on about a “quote”. You know full well what I quoted from the Bible.

As to 'no where near the meaning intended' hogwash. John was written after the calamity of the destruction of Roman responses to the revolts where enmity between the followers of Christ, the revisionists, and those more orthodox Jews was really getting going in the 9th decade AD. Those words were purposefully included by Gentile followers to distance themselves and the product has been 2000 years of virulent hatred and persecution of te Jewish people by Christians.

For you to be trying to whitewash this is just despicable.

And there is very little distance between saying the father of the Jews is the Devil and saying Jews are the sons of the Devil. This is just a deflection so stop.

SR,

You seem to struggle with the Christian concept that either you go to heaven (inherit the kingdom of God) or go to hell. There is no halfway.

If you read the UK judgement, the christian in that case went further than Folau, stating his own opinion that homosexuality was a sin.

Making up quotes to create a strawman is feeble. That the highest court in the UK has ruled in such a way that blows a hole in RA's argument still stands.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/why-the-pm-and-most-christians-are-going-to-hell-20190719-p528xx.html
This puts a grim light on the subject
Never saw it coming, in fact thought his Church was better than this

Belly, remember 'religions' are not the work of GOD.
They are the creation of MEN!
As such they are ALL fakes and cons.
If I wanted to be kind I would call them CULTS.
God did not talk to anyone.
God did not create the Earth or universe or mankind or whatever, in 7 days.
The best way to describe 'religions' is to use Muslims as an example.
Mohammad, (the man) set up the Muslim faith in the name of Islam and Allah.
Allah (GOD) did not set up the Muslim faith.
He (IT) did not tell Mohammad anything, Allah did/does not exist.
So all this rubbish called religion is all a farce designed for the purpose of controlling people threatening them with a higher being that they cannot meet or see until death.
When you read these holy books, you come away with a sense of disbelief, and you would be right on the money.
They speak of things that are too far fetched to be true, and they are not, and so it is their stories within are not true.
FICTION!

ALTRAV as you addressed me I read that post
Know what you say is true, more each day do
BUT as said in the thread about the bill shortly before parliament, this subject,for many is important
I stood with the man, he has the right to believe what he wants to
But his actions of late, and the link, warns we may, in calling for his rights,be calling for just another minority to rule over the majority

Belly

That the journalist quite happily condemned to hell the PM and a whole bunch of other people puts him in the same bin as Folau.

Why are you not condemning her? Perhaps she is allowed to express her opinion as is Folau?