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Folau and GoFundMe

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Peter O'Brien points out in Quadrant today now much of the comment on Israel Folau is ill informed, and quotes an article by ALP blowhard, Graham Richardson. You can read Richardson's nonsense if you want. I am more interested in what the hoi polloi, of which I am a member, thinks rather than meanderings of a has-been politician; and there is an ill informed comment from one of them further down in O'Brien's article:

"I wonder if there would be the same passion for “religious freedom” if Israel Folau’s homophobic views were espoused by, say, a Muslim cleric? At the end of the day, hatred is hatred. No matter what the guise, be it religious, artistic or scientific; intolerance causes the same harm to the targeted group."

What balderdash! There was nothing homophobic about Folau's comments. He merely stated what his faith told him would happen to such people. Muslim cleric? Hey, stupid, Muslims advocate murder for homsexuals; they don't leave it to Allah. They use a tall building or a crane, and kill them in the here and now.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 5:11:50 PM
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Australian society is certainly topsy turvy, as pointed out by Augusto Zimmerman:

"The agnostic Latham defends freedom of religion and freedom of speech for Christians, but the Christian PM cowardly refuses to make a comment".

Zimmerman goes on to say, quoting sensible fellow-thinker, Paul Collits:

"The Prime Minister's failure to see the Folau case as a flagship freedom-of-speech issue is chilling for anyone with a modicum of understanding of how and why freedom is important".

Very chilling indeed. Morrison might be some improvement on Turnbull, but the Liberal party needs to give serious thought to replacing him, now.

Morrison is a "Christian” Prime Minister who appears to have no regard for freedom of speech and freedom of religion".

Perhaps Morrison is just a self-identifying Christian.

Zimmerman reminds Morrison that he is only PM because "the opposition leader was truly appalling and not a feasible option". Morrison was the better of "two rather undesirable options"
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 5:36:27 PM
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Dear Foxy,

Glad to be of service.

I was wondering today if Falou had instead quoted some of the Gospel of John. This is from Wikipedia;

"The Gospel of John has provided antisemites with grist for their mill. It is the primary source of the image of "the Jews" acting collectively as the enemy of Jesus, which later became fixed in Christian minds."

"John himself has Jesus tell the Samaritan woman that "salvation is from the Jews." For example, in John 7:1-9 Jesus moves around in Galilee but avoids Judea, because "the Jews" were looking for a chance to kill him. In 7:12-13 some said "he is a good man" whereas others said he deceives the people, but these were all "whispers", no one would speak publicly for "fear of the Jews". Jewish rejection is also recorded in 7:45-52, 8:39-59, 10:22-42, and 12:36-43. John 12:42 says many did believe, but they kept it private, for fear the Pharisees would exclude them from the synagogue. After the crucifixion, 20:19 has the disciples hiding behind locked doors, "for fear of the Jews".

End quote.

What if instead of quoting passages about homosexuals headed for hell he had quoted John and claimed that Jews are to be feared and that 'Salvation is from the Jews'?

Would there be millions of dollars floating in for a fund to take RA to court for trammeling his religious freedoms after he was inevitably sacked?

I suspect not.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 6:38:51 PM
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Dear Steele,

Peter FitzSimons sums things up rather well::

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/gofundme-caves-in-to-roar-of-ravenous-mob-and-kills-folau-page-20190624-p520ps.html
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 6:44:38 PM
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yep the haters dig in while multitudes of Aussies donate towards Izzy. Of course the leftist always expect perverted corporates and tax payers to fund their often perverted causes.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 7:51:35 PM
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Well…I begin.

And we'll I shall continue. For the sordid truth about the vast negative effects of the practice of homosexuality, will escape; irrespective of Qantas and it's CEO.
Allan Joyce needs to be very quickly sacked from his trusted position at Qantas.

What he has achieved towards the spread and normalisation of the unacceptable practise of homosexuality and all of its tangentals in our community, by the incorrigible use of his trusted position, is nothing short of a terrorist attack on a once status quo society of normality.

His efforts have increased harm to the society he is intent on destroying, by normalising a disease propagating practice, which was outlawed in sensible society the world over for centuries, and for very good reason.

He must go!

Dan.
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 8:54:57 PM
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