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Folau and GoFundMe

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Be careful what you wish for.
Here is something being seriously considered in the United Nations.

http://tinyurl.com/y4w7mqka

That would remove any possibility of free speech.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 6:04:48 PM
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Bazz,

Israel Folau is free to hold the view that
some people are bound for hell unless they repent.
But freedom of speech and freedom of expression
is not as I stated earlier - freedom from
consequence.

And, Rugby Australia has enacted a consequence for
Folau's repeated use of his social media to vilify
people.

Folau isn't an 18 year old. He's an international
sports star and was an ambassador for rugby and was
renumerated accordingly.

This is not the first time Folau had been vocal in
his views. He had a choice. In the end his choice
was, between what he understood to be his duty to
his employer and what he understood to be his duty to
his God. Folau chose to put his religion first.

Conscience is not a convenient friend.
It often comes with consequences. Some good,
some bad.

Neither Rugby Australia nor GoFund Me have silenced
Folau. He is still acting and speaking in accordance
with his religious beliefs.

He is still able to raise fund for his defence - as
demonstrated by the swift offer of support provided
by the Australian Christian Lobby. Folau still has a
public platform - which he continues to utilise -
as is his right.

As a journalist observed - "kicked out of the temple,
Folau remains free to preach in the market place."
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 7:09:31 PM
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Steele,

That's what happens to churches that don't keep homosexual paedophiles out of their Religious Orders; a more discriminatory selection process is called for.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 8:11:24 PM
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Is Mise,

A homosexual and a pedophile are two different
things.

And, the church has always had a shortage of priests.
Even more so today.

Getting rid of celibacy which the Pope can do -
might help relieve the problem - and bring some
normality back.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 8:17:01 PM
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Here is the simple truth;

Democracy rode on the back of Christianity for two hundred years.

Without each other, both are dead.

We have reached the end.

It's every man for himself now...

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 9:28:12 PM
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Dear runner,

You wrote;

"yeah steelie probably only surpassed by the 'gay' community and Indigeneous communites including Maories in NZ."

Bull.

Name one single solitary figure you can find that would show a higher rate of abusers in these cohorts. Here you are yet again defending the indefensible. You have no moral authority here rather you should be humble, acknowledge the vast moral failings of your faith's leadership rather than trying to squirm away from your responsibility in this matter.

Dear Is Mise,

Yeah right. Many Christian abusers attacked both boys and girls however the access to children for priests and nuns were generally confined to their own sex. The Christian Brothers ran boys schools in the main. Opportunity along with a compliant hierarchy was the overarching factor.

Don't you think a religion which prized celibacy over normal relations had anything to do with it?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 10:51:53 PM
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