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Halal Kind Meats?? Should ritual killings be allowed to happen in this country?

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I have no problem with Halal killing if it’s how they want to do it. I would object strongly if Halal was imposed on the rest of us.
I was disturbed last week by a report on John Laws talkback radio that women walking past a mosque were abused for not being covered up. This if true is totally unacceptable to me. The gradual creation of no go areas in South West Sydney is totally abhorrent.
Posted by SILLE, Monday, 6 August 2007 2:35:30 PM
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Chainsmoker,
If the slaughtering is left too long than yes the animal can regain consciousness but if the throat is cut it will obviously never recover. As you say the animal is supposed to be calm and not stressed when slaughtering - which is impossible as the animal would be incredibly stressed already as it has travelled to the abbatoirs in a truck, sat in a treeless yard for a day and then mustered into the slaughterhouse with hundreds of other sheep.

In my opinion the only humane way to kill a sheep is in conjunction with the captive bolt. If the slaughterman are not trained it is very easy to botch. To do the Halal method correctly you are not allowed to severe the spinal cord which can create some problems ....and it is not easy to actually cut through neck tendons and vessels in one fowl swoop...
Posted by izzo, Monday, 6 August 2007 3:01:34 PM
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I once watched a relative drain a few litres of blood from a horse. All it took was a neat little nick at the neck. Not sure what was done to the horse, but it stood there peacefully throughout the whole process, which took considerable time.

Can I suggest that before you start this misinformation campaign against evil cults undermining our society, you first confirm that halal killers are actually cruel to the animals? I've killed plenty in my time by snapping the neck, bleeding, iki jimi and a blow to the head. No method is perfect.
Posted by freediver, Monday, 6 August 2007 3:07:26 PM
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SILLE
In the meat industry we are already unknowingly eating meat that has been killed in a manner required by the muslim and jewish religion. When the animals are killed for these cultures some carcasses are checked to make sure the cut in the throat was done correctly - if it wasnt the carcass is either discarded or put through the mainstream markets - so, the next leg of lamb you buy could of easily been slaughted in the name of Allah!....food for thought! (pardon the intended pun!)
Posted by izzo, Monday, 6 August 2007 3:25:05 PM
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Do you go fishing PF?. We are all fairly comfortable with fish suffocating or getting their heads partially caved in. Far worse way to die than getting your throat slit. Wouldn't you say, PF?.
Posted by StG, Monday, 6 August 2007 3:29:46 PM
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StG, why is it wrong to opt for the kindest form of slaughtering possible?

It is not true that stunned animals do not bleed thoroughly- the stunning just knocks them out for 20 or so seconds but heart and breathing never stop.

There surely must be scientific evidence available to show that there is no difference in bleeding between stunned and conscious animals.
Posted by Celivia, Monday, 6 August 2007 3:36:30 PM
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